Just got some new tyres.....is this normal ?

[JONRW]

all....
I've just had a recommended mobile fitter round who's fitted 4 new tyres,
205 / 55 /16's to my CLK.
Three guys turned up in a perfectly good sign written van, one guy took care of the taking off and putting back on of the wheels, another guy did the tyre fit and balancing and the other guy did the running about between these two fellas. They were here for about 20 minutes max and charged us the pre agreed £45 per tyre.
I've been out for a quick drive and all appears perfectly fine with the balancing, no funny pulls or anything like that, so I'm happy on that front.

But..... when I pull away and make a slight agressive stop I get a bit of a tyre screech noise.
I can only imagine that the screech noise is due to the tyre been brand new and a kinda lacker on them or something ?

Reason why I say that is because when I pulled away from my NEWLY BLOCK PAVED DRIVE it left a tyre mark on it..... which I've tried to jet wash off and the water just beads off it - so it must be a lacker of some sort.

Couple of questions if I may please .....
Is this normal for new tyres ?
Any ideas what 'chemical' to use to get these marks of my drive ?

Other than that still very good motoring in the CLK, love it.

 

[television]

The tyres will take a few hundred miles to bed in.

I fitted 2 new ones to the rear of mine last month, and it was wheel spins all the way at first, but now back to normal

 

[rf065]

When the tyres are made in the mould, a chemical compound is used to stop the tyre sticking to the mould. This does however bond itself to the rubber as it hardens and takes a hundred miles or so to fully wear away.

Russ

 

[JONRW]

Thanks and thank goodness....... I just went to collect a chinese take-away and the back end spun out on every corner.... I thought for a moment that cheaper is not the answer and I had wasted my money if the ride was gonna be skid pan alley all the time.

 

[MarkCL]

You don't say what make the tyres are - if they're a cheaper make of tyre then that could also be a contributing factor to the grip issues?

Cheers,
Mark

 

[jberks]

what make are they?
I'm running 'cheapies' and they're very grippy so it's not always the case. But as has been said, they do need to bed in. It's also worth checking the pressures as fitters often pump all tyres to 30psi, irrespective of what you'd run them at yourself.

 

[type49]

I wouldn't worry. This is normal with new tyres. Try a few hardish braking (don't go mad) & this will accelerate the bedding-in.

 

[s999sws]

I have just had 4 Michelin Pilot Primacy 2s put on and they are perfect. I have had no spinning, squealing or any other problems with them. I run a 2006 E280CDi estate and would not dream of putting "cheapie" tyres on it. If I could not afford to use the appropriate tyre quality I would sell the car.

 

[JEZ.S320L]

I have just had 4 Michelin Pilot Primacy 2s put on and they are perfect. I have had no spinning, squealing or any other problems with them. I run a 2006 E280CDi estate and would not dream of putting "cheapie" tyres on it. If I could not afford to use the appropriate tyre quality I would sell the car.

I'm afraid your experience is not unique to so-called 'top-end' tyres.! I had, as you call 'cheapie' tyres fitted and I also had no "spinning, squealing or any other problems with them".

p.s. I CAN afford to use top-end tyres - it is MY decision not to do so. In the same way, I choose NOT to buy designer golf clubs - but it doesn't stop me playing golf..!!!!

 

[television]

There is something to be said for running on cheaper tyres as you are effectively running with a better tread longer

 

[JONRW]

You don't say what make the tyres are - if they're a cheaper make of tyre then that could also be a contributing factor to the grip issues?

Cheers,
Mark

The tyres are KINGS TIRES, here is the link I found for their website:

Second one up from the bottom of the page: KT-7997 - 205/55/16's

http://app.kingstire.com.cn/enterpr...=cAnonymous&sysLanguage=en&DirID=&listLength=

 

[jberks]

I have just had 4 Michelin Pilot Primacy 2s put on and they are perfect. I have had no spinning, squealing or any other problems with them. I run a 2006 E280CDi estate and would not dream of putting "cheapie" tyres on it. If I could not afford to use the appropriate tyre quality I would sell the car.

Like Jez, I choose to buy cheaper tyres (on my 2005 E270cdi). Sure I could spend £600 a pop on Continentals or Michelins but I have learned that with tyres you often don't get what you pay for and the £250 a set Federals I run have been very impressive in both grip and longevity. I dare say I get 2k (if that) less out of a set but as Malcolm points out, by then neither set is at its best and I'll be on shiny new ones sooner (which will exceed the performance of your, by now, worn Michelins). Plus at £60 ea I'm not too concerned if I swap them out before they're completely shot, so if the weather is turning bad and they're starting to look a bit worn, I can throw them away, pop on a new set and have nice deep tread ready for the bad weather.

 

[jberks]

The tyres are KINGS TIRES, here is the link I found for their url]

Not heard of this make. Let us know how you go on with them. How much were they?

 

[JONRW]

Not heard of this make. Let us know how you go on with them. How much were they?

I paid £45 per tyre, fully fitted at my home by a recommended mobile tyre man ! He said he mainly deals in Alloys and said that £600 will get you a cracking set with tyres.

 

[djb]

tyre release agent is silicone

Exactly the same problem with new motor bike tyres, execpt you fall off!!!!

takes about 60 miles to bed in and remove the slippery bit.

 

[Parrot of Doom]

I have continentals on the front, and some cheapo make on the back.

I'll never buy cheap tyres again. The back end is always loose.

The upside is that they've somehow lasted over 30,000 miles.

 

[jberks]

I have continentals on the front, and some cheapo make on the back.

I'll never buy cheap tyres again. The back end is always loose.

The upside is that they've somehow lasted over 30,000 miles.

Iteresting - goes to prove that as wth expensive tyres cheap ones come in all types. Cheaper tyres are known to wear quicker than expensive ones - hence your experience is the opposite of conventional wisdom!

This morning, here up norf, we have a severe weather warning . It is, shall we say, a little damp. So, I thought I'd do a small test and pushed my heavy E class into corners and roundabouts a little harder than I should given the conditions. All the roads round here have water flowing freely across them. I wasn't racing or being totally daft, but just asking more than was fair from my cheap tyres. The result - no understeer, no slip and sure footed all the way. Perhaps a racing driver could tell the difference between mine and, say, £140 Michelins, but as an enthusiatsic amateur, I can't.

I fully agree and accept that there are some pretty rough tyres out there in the bargain market, but I've said it before and I'll keep repeating, do your research carefully, buy wisely based on price and reviews ( NOT just price), and you can get very good quality tyres for a fraction of the big brand price.

I do understand peoples reticense though. I looked at our shiny new freelander, with it's smart Michelins and it would bother me to put anything else on it. But I know that my reluctance is psychological, not logical.

 

[FIBAMAN]

you should avoid harsh acceleration and heavy braking for at least the first 150 - 200 miles on new rubber. There is a variable amount of mould release agent which has to be worked out of the tyre. Harsh treatment initially to new tyres of whatever make, will contribute to shorter life (possibly yours). Most major brands run second makes of relatively unknown names and the tyres are perfectly sound. eg Lassa (Bridgestone) Courier (Pirelli), your tyre fitter should be able to tell you

 

[s999sws]

I didn't realise my post would attract as much attention as it has!
The main thing that I would be concerned about with cheapo tyres is that they are the ONLY thing between me and the road. If I were to have an accident and perhaps skidded into a lamp post or something like a big truck, and was either injured or at the worst killed, and this MAY have been prevented by using top grade tyres, then I am quite prepared to pay for the privilege. I did not mean to cause any upset by saying if you can't afford them then you should be driving something else.
regards
Stephen W-S

 

[television]

I didn't realise my post would attract as much attention as it has!
The main thing that I would be concerned about with cheapo tyres is that they are the ONLY thing between me and the road. If I were to have an accident and perhaps skidded into a lamp post or something like a big truck, and was either injured or at the worst killed, and this MAY have been prevented by using top grade tyres, then I am quite prepared to pay for the privilege. I did not mean to cause any upset by saying if you can't afford them then you should be driving something else.
regards
Stephen W-S

There is often no fixed best or cheapest worst, many big names like Continental often fair badly in test, but they all get better all the time.

While one may do badly in the rain, it might be the best in the dry, so you would have to chose how you are going to leave the road.

I think that it could be discussed forever