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kleemann kd box

Discussion in 'Engine, Drivetrain, Fuel and Exhaust' started by garytitley, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. garytitley

    garytitley Banned

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    I know there has already questions been asked regarding tuning boxes so i'll
    apologise in advance but i'd like to know the following if at all possible,are the
    keemann boxes any good ie is there any chance of engine damage,gearbox damage,injector wear or anything else i should be aware of.The car this would be fitted to is my 2002 s 320 Cdi which has done 82,000 miles with a full mbsh so its been well cared for service wise.I have spoken to kleemann regarding all of the above and of course they say there are no issues but of course they would after all they are selling a product,but as i have found out sometimes the hard way somethings are not all there made out to be,now im not trying to say kleemann's stuff is in anyway not fit for intended use but i'd like to know the facts before i part with my hard earned,if of course there is a risk of any of the above then i will wisely leave well alone.Any useful help would be very welcome.cheers peeps.:D
     
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    television Always remembered RIP

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    Just on the gearbox troubles that could arise, I would not do it
     
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    garytitley

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    Hi malcolm,is this because of the miles the car has done or can't the gearbox
    handle much more power and torque.cheers gary.:D
     
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    television Always remembered RIP

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    Its not the miles, its that when your car leaves the factory, it come with a gearbox that is matched to the power toque of the engine, every different engined car in each range uses a different gear box.
     
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    plus increased injector wear and increased wear everywhere really.
    After all you're asking the engine to put out more power. That has to increase the load on all components, from the valves to the bearings. You don't get anything for nothing.
    The injectors are well known. If you're at 82k on the originals it's fair to assume that a box would make injector failure much more imminent. They're being asked to put out more fuel per shot and stay open longer. They're already tired so expect problems.
     
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    Correct , Tunit boxes are a no no ...

    Have some software developed may cost a little more better to be safe than sorry ...

    Regards Gary @ GCL Tuning
     
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    how difficult is it, ie how much training is required, to re map an engine? its something ive always wanted to do, seen programmes for laptops to do it, but never bought 1 in case i wreck something coz im not correctly trained! and there isnt really anywhere that does them in my area, only the tunit boxes which im told can be mapped for performance or economy, but i presume still use generic settings? sorry to hijack thread btw.
     
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    This is correct !

    It takes year's and years to learn to develop....

    Please take my advice and do NOT by anything of Ebay to do a proper job without leaving a customers vehicle undriveable you will be looking at a large investment (around 15 - 25 k) for a starter tool then Hours of development and vehicles to "test" also a Rolling Road ...

    If you would like any more info on this subject give us a call (franchise Ect) or just some more info

    Thanks Gary @ GCL Tuning

    Sorry to go off the track !!!!
     
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    so its obviously big money to get started then? only reason i thought of buying the programmes was so i could do it myself on my own car! dont wanna mess it up tho and cash is extremely tight for me at the moment! could be out of work in a couple of weeks, we have been informed!
     
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    Yes Defiantly not cheap

    Ebay Products keep the majority of tuners Busy and damage the industry ,

    The best thing to do is let a professional do it ! All it takes is one slip of the key board or one fluctuation of power and you will end up with a non starter many people forget the power aspect of things too much or not enough and it game over ...


    Regards GCL Tuning
     
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    Ok thanks everyone,i will be leaving the car as mercedes intended ie standard.:D
     
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    I hope i haven't put you off ...

    If you want the best performance and reliability for the least amount of money(£300-£900) then software is the way to be looking


    Regards GCL Tuning
     

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