Botus
Senior Member
we should have a poll of who's happy with seats in a car as per the title...
mate just got his new S60 hybrid with heated vented multi lumbar seats and he's now having back problems from the seats. He drove a x60 and liked it, drove a poverty spec S60 and liked it... but now he's having issues with his higher spec one....
I'm not surprised, wife used to work for volvo and had loads of them, every single one from a C30 to and S80 crippled my back. If we went anywhere I had to ram a T shirt down behind my back or I would be in agony for 2 weeks... Which is all very strange as all the motoring posts rant about vovlo seats being the most comfortable of anything out there (when they aren't)...
Then we get my S class and its got heated, vented, multi lumbar, dynamic, massaging seats and they are by far the most hideously uncomfortable seat of any car I've ever driven. I have a pound shop lumbar support and two carefully folded flannels that finally give some support...
Both of my father's E class' have had very average seats, his w124 had the orthopaedic option and they ruined his back (he's 5 foot 10) and mine. His w211 is much better on the std seats but pretty woeful after 30 miles. Every BMW (I've had three), has had no lumbar support and give mild back ache. Most VWs have horrid seats, and both my omega's gave me some issues. With the later one being much worse as the lumba support was fitted even higher.
As I said to my mate on his Volvo... so there's NO lumbar support where you need it lower down and far too much starting 3 to 4 inches further up and going 6 inches above what a normal human needs. And even on it min setting, its at least double you'd ever want and after 6 miles you're in agony.... and he said EXACTLY ! - so what gives.... I'm 6 foot 3 with a 33 inch inside leg (so quite proportionate for the height) and yet the lumbar is much, much too high and it just cripples you... and one of our sites in in Germany and they are all much shorter than me, so what gives?
Then you find when you sit in any Ford the seats are just PERFECT.... so a car designed for far more people, of far more varying shapes and sizes, in far more locations on the planet, get it right every time, from budget to premium. I even had a Fiat Panda for many years with the removable camping chairs and they were just fine !!! And yet every german car and Volvo's are exclusively designed for a different type of human ?
Any one get how / why and what's different about these people ? they look the same, 98% are shorter than me, yet have a lumbar that's 3 to 6 inches higher, in the wrong place....
I get it on the S class, its for the tail of the lizard people ruining the planet... but on a 3 series, E class or any volvo ?
mate just got his new S60 hybrid with heated vented multi lumbar seats and he's now having back problems from the seats. He drove a x60 and liked it, drove a poverty spec S60 and liked it... but now he's having issues with his higher spec one....
I'm not surprised, wife used to work for volvo and had loads of them, every single one from a C30 to and S80 crippled my back. If we went anywhere I had to ram a T shirt down behind my back or I would be in agony for 2 weeks... Which is all very strange as all the motoring posts rant about vovlo seats being the most comfortable of anything out there (when they aren't)...
Then we get my S class and its got heated, vented, multi lumbar, dynamic, massaging seats and they are by far the most hideously uncomfortable seat of any car I've ever driven. I have a pound shop lumbar support and two carefully folded flannels that finally give some support...
Both of my father's E class' have had very average seats, his w124 had the orthopaedic option and they ruined his back (he's 5 foot 10) and mine. His w211 is much better on the std seats but pretty woeful after 30 miles. Every BMW (I've had three), has had no lumbar support and give mild back ache. Most VWs have horrid seats, and both my omega's gave me some issues. With the later one being much worse as the lumba support was fitted even higher.
As I said to my mate on his Volvo... so there's NO lumbar support where you need it lower down and far too much starting 3 to 4 inches further up and going 6 inches above what a normal human needs. And even on it min setting, its at least double you'd ever want and after 6 miles you're in agony.... and he said EXACTLY ! - so what gives.... I'm 6 foot 3 with a 33 inch inside leg (so quite proportionate for the height) and yet the lumbar is much, much too high and it just cripples you... and one of our sites in in Germany and they are all much shorter than me, so what gives?
Then you find when you sit in any Ford the seats are just PERFECT.... so a car designed for far more people, of far more varying shapes and sizes, in far more locations on the planet, get it right every time, from budget to premium. I even had a Fiat Panda for many years with the removable camping chairs and they were just fine !!! And yet every german car and Volvo's are exclusively designed for a different type of human ?
Any one get how / why and what's different about these people ? they look the same, 98% are shorter than me, yet have a lumbar that's 3 to 6 inches higher, in the wrong place....
I get it on the S class, its for the tail of the lizard people ruining the planet... but on a 3 series, E class or any volvo ?
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