MOT Failure

[KellyMK]

Hello All, my E350/W212 just got returned from the MOT centre, they called my mechanic to tell him the rear subframe assembly was completely rotten....The car had a 12 month MOT when I bought it from dealer in Blackburn, should this has been spotted on the MOT test that was done prior to purchase? as I find it unlikely its rotted in less than 12 months? any help appreciated....Ive banged £4k into it already, gearbox/seals/TC...and its starting to look like it was scrap to begin with. Thanks in advance

 

[Taffy7hfa]

Sounds odd, especially if it wasn't mentioned on the previous mot, I would want to see it for myself or at least get a second opinion.

 

[Paul Garrett]

It does sound strange that a rear subframe has rotted out so bad in one year when it had not been flagged up the year before? So was the previous MOT legit?? Makes you wonder eh? Id go back to dealer and if they not interested then off to trading standards who be interested alongside D.O.T standards who would hopefully look into history of vehicle as you had been driving around in a sub safe car , not good

 

[Blobcat]

Getting quite common unfortunately… some have had the subframe replaced by Mercedes - have a search on the forum

 

[Wighty]

It’s tough to pin it on the dealer for 12 months ago , the MOT test is for the car on that day at that time . The subframes also rot from the inside .
If it was an MB main dealer , they have MOT protection for a year

 

[vtaylor78]

This is the second one this week, this is really concerning.
Sorry to hear this OP.

 

[Paul Garrett]

It’s tough to pin it on the dealer for 12 months ago , the MOT test is for the car on that day at that time . The subframes also rot from the inside .
If it was an MB main dealer , they have MOT protection for a year

True but really the W212 is not a really old car and should the subframe rot out so quickly? Id have a independent inspection done to find out excactly what is going on with it as something does not sit right with it , considering there are older cars out there without this issue? Mine is 20 years old next Jan and its all good and solid underneath...

 

[Simon 220d amg estate]

Hello All, my E350/W212 just got returned from the MOT centre, they called my mechanic to tell him the rear subframe assembly was completely rotten....The car had a 12 month MOT when I bought it from dealer in Blackburn, should this has been spotted on the MOT test that was done prior to purchase? as I find it unlikely its rotted in less than 12 months? any help appreciated....Ive banged £4k into it already, gearbox/seals/TC...and its starting to look like it was scrap to begin with. Thanks in advance

Hello All, my E350/W212 just got returned from the MOT centre, they called my mechanic to tell him the rear subframe assembly was completely rotten....The car had a 12 month MOT when I bought it from dealer in Blackburn, should this has been spotted on the MOT test that was done prior to purchase? as I find it unlikely its rotted in less than 12 months? any help appreciated....Ive banged £4k into it already, gearbox/seals/TC...and its starting to look like it was scrap to begin with. Thanks in advance

Does the car have a full Mercedes or Specialist service history?
If not,personally i would never had touched it

 

[Simon 220d amg estate]

Hello All, my E350/W212 just got returned from the MOT centre, they called my mechanic to tell him the rear subframe assembly was completely rotten....The car had a 12 month MOT when I bought it from dealer in Blackburn, should this has been spotted on the MOT test that was done prior to purchase? as I find it unlikely its rotted in less than 12 months? any help appreciated....Ive banged £4k into it already, gearbox/seals/TC...and its starting to look like it was scrap to begin with. Thanks in advance

Hello All, my E350/W212 just got returned from the MOT centre, they called my mechanic to tell him the rear subframe assembly was completely rotten....The car had a 12 month MOT when I bought it from dealer in Blackburn, should this has been spotted on the MOT test that was done prior to purchase? as I find it unlikely its rotted in less than 12 months? any help appreciated....Ive banged £4k into it already, gearbox/seals/TC...and its starting to look like it was scrap to begin with. Thanks in advance

Has the car got a full Mercedes main dealer or Mercedes Specialist history?
If not then personally i would never have touched it

 

[vtaylor78]

What year is it , or have I missed that ?

 

[Blobcat]

What year is it , or have I missed that ?

2010

 

[Paul Garrett]

2010

A 2010 car with a rotted out frame? Sounds suspicious to me! Unless it was parked in the sea?

 

[sonic]

I have a 2011 212 which I bought 6 months old ex demonstrator from MB.
I had it MOT’ed last month had a good look underneath while it was up on the hoist, looked very clean.

 

[Paul Garrett]

I have a 2011 212 which I bought 6 months old ex demonstrator from MB.
I had it MOT’ed last month had a good look underneath while it was up on the hoist, looked very clean.

Excactly sonic that other W212 must had been abused maybe , a beaut to look at but a dog underneath? Either way if i was the owner id be kicking some butt over this esp if id investing a lot of money in after it was bought like Kelly has!

 

[Blobcat]

Excactly sonic that other W212 must had been abused maybe , a beaut to look at but a dog underneath? Either way if i was the owner id be kicking some butt over this esp if id investing a lot of money in after it was bought like Kelly has!

Subframe rot is something some Mercedes suffer from… they rot from the inside so not picked up on MOT and generally not noticeable until they fail… have a search on the forum quite common unfortunately

 

[sonic]

Excactly sonic that other W212 must had been abused maybe , a beaut to look at but a dog underneath? Either way if i was the owner id be kicking some butt over this esp if id investing a lot of money in after it was bought like Kelly has!

In the 70’s I was in the army in Germany I had two Renault 16’s both great cars. I was offered a 3 month old Renault 20 by a friend who was promoted & posted unexpectedly, I bought the car for a song. Six years later the body was rusting in numerous places, never involved in an accident garaged every night. I had the rust sorted & sold it quickly. I friend of mine had the same car same year of manufacture, kept it 10 years no rust. In fact I never saw another Renault 20 with a fraction of the rust mine had.

 

[KellyMK]

What year is it , or have I missed that ?

Its a 2010 E350 BlueEf.

 

[Gazwould]

Even if it looks good I'd get cleaning and spraying .

 

[V6Matty]

It does seem that the early 212’s and 204 are suffering with this, as has been pointed out if you can get it looked at my Mercedes there may be an option for replacement under warranty but you’ll need to go armed with knowledge on how it’s rotted from the inside out

 

[peterws1957]

It does sound strange that a rear subframe has rotted out so bad in one year when it had not been flagged up the year before? So was the previous MOT legit?? Makes you wonder eh? Id go back to dealer and if they not interested then off to trading standards who be interested alongside D.O.T standards who would hopefully look into history of vehicle as you had been driving around in a sub safe car , not good

Surely you're not implying that there are dealers in Lancashire who are less than honest?