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My Daughters 206

Discussion in 'Motoring Related Discussion' started by M80, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. M80

    M80 Senior Member

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    I'm hoping one of our many experts here might have some idea on this one.

    It's a Peugeot, 2002 1.4 petrol. Only 46k miles and a perfect car for the girl having passed her test not so long ago.

    She drives it to work, daily, 12 miles away in Macclesfield.
    Most often on the return journey when decending toward Buxton the EML flickers on and the car seems to miss. When stationary (eg traffic lights) she says it's shaking. I've not experienced this bit but feared it was missing on one cylinder. Apparently it is down on power also.
    This is when dark with full lights having been used, radio, fan blower....
    If the car is revved a little, electric load reduced it settles down for a while.

    I test ran it and after similar miles it was only when ticking over on the drive with hi load to electrics that I could repeat this. Charge voltage when 'missing' was over 14 volts, otherwise as expected. The car starts readily each morning so I discounted the battery and thought the alternator regulator was the culprit.

    I sourced an alternator from a breakers and fitted it, all was good for a few days. Larisa and self flew off to Cuba and the little lady had the problem come back while we were sunning ourselves.

    I'm aware of the coil pack being an issue on these but wouldn't expect the symptom to go away by revving some or reducing load on the alternator ??

    Any thoughts appreciated.
     
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    No idea Martin, but Happy Christmas to you regardless.
     
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    Crank/camshaft sensor ?-plug it in to diagnostics and read the code ?
     
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    I had similar on a 306 (1.6 petrol) many years ago and as you stated it was a coil that had gone, I'm afraid it does sound very similar and may not be an easy fix. As for it seeming to clear when rev'd it will tend to only be present when at a constant load so ideling or doing a steady spead. The car will probably sound very rough when it happens?

    Just check the AC compressor as well as that does put a lot of load on the engine in pugs, they also tend to just stop working with any notice.

    I hope it all turns out ok for you.
     
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    Thanks to both and a merry Christmas to you both and all.

    When I've tried to read the codes on this one it fails, with the EML and Torque anyway. I assumed it was pre OBDII but a Google search reckons OBDII is on petrols after 2001 and diesels after 200 ??. So it's worth another try later.
     
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    it should read the codes ok, so if thats failing it may be an ECU problem but thats only a guess. you could take to an Indy and see what they say, maybe just give one a call and explain it to them they might give you some simple test you can do to try and pinpoint the issue.
     
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    Have you checked the earth strap from the engine to chassis?
    I have had two recently that had corroded internally and looked perfect, caused no end of assorted issues
     
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    The CPS sounded right to me as a likely cause. Mainly as I remember my CPS going faulty on my C320 when warm.

    I ordered one from the enet that turned out (7 days later) to be 10mm shorter of the fly wheel. The engine failed to start. You might say that at £25 (incl postage) I should expect cr*p when others were £50+

    So I went to the local motor spares shop. A day later (today) they supplied and all looks good, but we will tell better from the little girlie using as normal. £7.80 I thought "this can't be right" so time will tell.

    Again thanks to all thoughts, this is a good club to be a member of.
     
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    Hi sounds like injector at fault, common fault my son replaces reguarly. please contact me and will get son to give you info on diagnosis.
     
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    I have the Full Peugeot/Citroen dealer diagnostic gear (Lexia) but its a bit to far, have a look on the frenchcar forums and someone on there with the Lexia system nearby will help I'm sure.
     

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