New Ved Rates

[hawk20]

I hope this prints large enough for all to read. Just click on the attachment.

 

[hawk20]

Note that it looks to me as though every car with emissions over 140gms/km will be paying more. Some will leap from £200 to over £400. Even my A180cdi will lose slightly. I now pay £115 in band C with emissions of 147. After April this will be £120.
On the new scale I will be band F and still pay £120. Every single petrol version of the A class (and of all other models) will pay more. I was surprised by this as he said the whole idea was that smaller, greener cars would benefit. Can't sensibly go smaller than an A class surely?

Here's the link for full details
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/2/5/bud08_chaptera.pdf

 

[A210AMG]

Our little A class in in the top band..

The ML probably off the scale.

Still I love driving it

 

[hawk20]

Our little A class in in the top band..

The ML probably off the scale.

Still I love driving it

That is absurd. What is your CO2 figure?

 

[AnthUK]

Rip off Britain!! Sting the motorist to pay for Governments mistakes.The whole 'green' tax issue stinks. Just an excuse to tax us more and more.

 

[darrenb1707]

Makes me wonder why motorists aren't protesting again like they did a few years ago with the fuel blockades.

We just seem to take this increased taxation lying down.....all in the name of supposed 'climate change'!!! Bring on the revolution!!! :grin:

 

[jberks]

We're all too tired to protest!.
As the shadow chancellor said, unless green taxes are revenue neutral we'll see them as another stealth tax. Just like the congestion charges, this has absolutely nothing to do with the enviroment and everything to do with rasing money from the one aspect of society that is too unfashionable to complain.

Its rather like the outcry when that lord critisised the nurses. Having spent the last year or so in and out of hospitals round the country (visiting relatives), I completely recognise his description which was true vastly more often than it wasn't. Even a relative who is a senior doctor in the same hospital as one patient, had to agree the standard of care was appaling. My relative only got the pain killers she needed when he picked up his mobile and rang a collegue - despiet asking over a 5 hour period, the nurses hadn't bothered.
But when that lord dared to actually speak the truth he was critisised and ridiculed. After all, nurses have halos and do the job purely out of the love and care in their hearts. Safe jobs, decent salaries (for someone with the alternative of a job at tescos), good pensions and the chance of bagging a rich doctor obviously don't come into it.
Spin has won and truth no longer has a place in Blairs Britain. What a legacy.

 

[jon_harley]

Don't forget we are also getting a cut in the basic rate of income tax from 22% to 20%, 600,000 pensioners are about to stop paying tax altogether and families with children are getting bigger tax allowances (all announced last year for this April). Also the threshold for inheritance tax is going up massively so I guess those with children can bequeath their gas-guzzlers to their offspring safely

 

[philharve]

Confused over VED rates

Hi All

Will the CO2 figure be extracted from standard tables for given models or will it be measured for individual vehicles at MOT time and the relevant rate subsequently applied?

I enquire because it's possible to have 2 identical models, same age, same spec', etc., but been maintained to different standards, one more polluting than the other. Would different rates apply?

I could accept that the owner of a badly maintained car ought to pay more but that's not what's going to happen, is it?

REGARDS

Phil

 

[NewMB]

Hm... if I understand this list correctly, I should be £210 for mine at the moment (but I did pay £205 in Feb!) and in 2010 it will be £550!!!

Talk about rip-off.

 

[verytalldave]

Protest in the voting booth. Its the only place worth protesting. Nothing else works.

 

[A210AMG]

If I understand it correctly my ML currently £220 (I think) will be £950 in 2010.

Sounds a lot given the value of the car by then, and will have a huge knock on the resale value which already will not be great I guess....

ooh well enjoy it while I can

 

[Rory]

If I understand it correctly my ML currently £220 (I think) will be £950 in 2010.

Sounds a lot given the value of the car by then, and will have a huge knock on the resale value which already will not be great I guess....

ooh well enjoy it while I can

**N0!** That's only if the car is new that year, and it only applies for the first year. The standard rate is "only" £455 (seems cheap now, eh!).

It's being speculated that the 2010 intro for the first year adder will cause a boom in large car purchasing until then, when sales will fall off a cliff.

 

[A210AMG]

Rory,


£455 in 2010 sound much better its two years away so things go up anyway everything seems to....

Good thing is its the cheapest car I have ever insured so not all bad

 

[slk350]

keep the car

Another reason to hang on to my '05 registered car. 3.5 Litre engines will never be as cheap to run again. So instead of replacing it with a more economical "green" car I'll hang on to my beast.

Oh well

Kev

 

[hawk20]

Another reason to hang on to my '05 registered car. 3.5 Litre engines will never be as cheap to run again. So instead of replacing it with a more economical "green" car I'll hang on to my beast.

Oh well

Kev

I'm not clear what you are saying. Noone is trying to make people swap existing cars for smaller, greener ones. The whole point of the showroom tax is to encourage people when they go to buy a new car, to buy something with less CO2. And I assume the higher annaul charges will make some buy smaller to keep long term costs down too.

But you selling your car won't help. It will just be bought by someone else.

 

[slk350]

I think what I was trying to say that when the time comes to replace my car I won't go for a smaller newer car as the likelihood is that the VED on those will be higher than on my old big car.

 

[hawk20]

I think what I was trying to say that when the time comes to replace my car I won't go for a smaller newer car as the likelihood is that the VED on those will be higher than on my old big car.

I think I see. So when you replace it are you saying you will still buy big or will you buy smaller and does the budget affect that?

 

[stumpy]

I'm not clear what you are saying. Noone is trying to make people swap existing cars for smaller, greener ones. The whole point of the showroom tax is to encourage people when they go to buy a new car, to buy something with less CO2. And I assume the higher annaul charges will make some buy smaller to keep long term costs down too.

But you selling your car won't help. It will just be bought by someone else.

Nail on the head there Hawk - the overall number of cars will increase anyway irrespective of this tax malarky. Yes I have more than one myself, but I can only drive one at a time. The thing that disturbs me about this tax is not just the huge increase to what it is now, but also that the rich / poor divide just gets bigger all the time. I for one will not change my car buying habits based on this. Infact I feel like buying a fleet of Bentleys because I will then be contributing more to society as a whole by subsidising everything. Because really this tax has got sweet fck all to do with the environment and we all know it.

 

[slk350]

I think I see. So when you replace it are you saying you will still buy big or will you buy smaller and does the budget affect that?

I think big & old to fit in with cheaper VED. Classic cars here I come.