Oil Filter

[Ray J]

I have not long been the owner of a 94 230E 7seater estate.

I've decided to do an oil and filter change.

The problem is the filter will not budge.

I've used a filter removal tool the belt type on a that you plug into a ratchet.

It bust without moving the filter.

Any Ideas?

Ray

 

[tom7035]

Hi Ray.
Welcome to the forum. Your filter certainly sounds overtight, but I suspect you may have had a faulty strap. Can I suggest you equip yourself with the proper socket type tool then give it a go. They'e readily available and inexpensive.
Cheers, Tom.

 

[paulcallender]

Take the air filter off, then hammer a large screwdriver into the oil filter (so it goes in one side and comes out the other, perhaps at a diagonal) and then use this to turn it.

Interestingly, I purchased a chain type oil filter removal tool, from Halfords, and it snapped the chain trying to take it off! The hammer + screwdriver always works, though.

 

[tom7035]

My apologies Ray, I thought it was the replaceable cartridge-type filter, same as mine.

 

[nicky]

as paul said the screwdriver method always works,just make sure it is a canister type that is on your car......

 

[Ray J]

It look's to me like it's a plastic one. Not sure if it's a screw on or screw in :roll: With a catridge inside.

If it's a screw on how deep are the threads? I wouldn't want to try driving a screw driver through the ally' casting thread.

Ray 8)

 

[paulcallender]

I'm 95% sure its a screw on filter. Why not wipe away the excess dirt from it, then you would be able to tell from the writing on it. Or, you could take a picture of it and post it on here...

 

[190D]

If you don?t know what type of oil filer is on your car then you should leave well alone. You only get 2 types of oil filters a paper element type and a canister one which is metal and easily removed with a Band or chain filter wrench. The other is normally a plastic screw on cap with a large hex on top easily removed with the correct spanner or socket. On older engines you had a paper element inside a metal container held in place with a long bolt going threw the centre of it . easily removed with a spanner. You will have to establish what is correct filter type that is on your car before proceeding

 

[Myros]

if it feels plastic

don't go anywhere near it with a screwdriver or any other pointy thing. Merc will sell you the correct filter removal tool, if you ask nicely and smile, for about a tenner. All you have to do is convice them that they won't see any of your money for an oil change anyway, and the profit motive takes over.
You might be able to get it off with a huge Stilson, but are likely to damage it in doing so.
The tightening torque, for when you re-fit, should be 25Nm.

 

[Ray J]

Say's 25Nm on the top with the direction arrow.

I've been to a classic car show today (Harewood House) and asked a couple of MB members, one with the same engine. They said, like Myros, there is a spanner available from MB.

I'll chase this up.

Anyone know the part number :lol:

Ray

 

[pascal]

a 94 230E 7seater estate.

I thought the 230 was replace with the 220 in mid-93

 

[nicky]

Sounds like it is the element type,so all you need is the correct size socket.......

What does the new one look like that you are going to fit....??????????????????

 

[Ray J]

I thought the 230 was replace with the 220 in mid-93

Doh! :Oops: Yes, sorry guys and gal's it's the E220. Don't know what made me type 230.

Ray 8)

 

[Ray J]

The filter

http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00358437f00000011.jpg

Hope this clears things up a little

Ray

 

[tom7035]

This is a replaceable paper element type. Don't go near it with a screwdriver!! The correct tool will do the trick. They're often available on eBay by the way, but I haven't checked lately.
Good luck, Tom.

(P.S. It's a 76 mm 14-flute cap socket)

 

[Ray J]

This is a replaceable paper element type. Don't go near it with a screwdriver!! The correct tool will do the trick. They're often available on eBay by the way, but I haven't checked lately.
Good luck, Tom.

(P.S. It's a 76 mm 14-flute cap socket)

Thank's Tom I'll do a search on eBay.

Ray 8)

 

[tom7035]

Oil filter removal socket

Hi Ray. If you haven't found an oil filter socket tool yet, available here, £8-odd inc. VAT.; http://www.concepttools.co.uk/Products/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=1226&RangeNo=21
Cheers, Tom.

 

[Ray J]

Dam! ordered one from Snap On £20 inc' VAT and post.

Still, can't go wrong with Snap On tools.

Ray

 

[tom7035]

Snap-On will certainly be better quality though maybe a bit extravagant unless you are a professional!
Visit the pub an hour later this weekend and recoup!

 

[Ray J]

Job done, thank's lads.

It took some shifting, probably a good job I bought a snap on tool.

Filter was crappy, and it was supposed to have had a M/B service 3000 miles ago?

All's well that ends well :smile:

Now for that broken manifold stud :?:

I'm thinking rather than try to remove it from the head and risk it shearing.
I'm going to remove the manifold and grind a couple of mill' off around the stud hole. To give me two or three threads. Enough to keep it flush.

Any coments?

Ray 8)