Principles of High Performance Driving

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Hi All

Many years ago I read a book entitled: 'Principles of High Performance Driving' written by Jackie Stewart. In point of fact Jackie only wrote the Preface in his own words because his Dyslexia means he has difficulty expressing himself by way of the written word.

In his book, Jackie claims that the skills possessed by F1 drivers could be learned by most drivers with the benefit that they would greatly improve everyday road skills. He could well be right. However, I have often wondered how the average driver could gain these skills if they had no access to a powerful car or a high speed test circuit to develop these skills? Presumably most drivers learn on the open road where they put themselves and other road users at risk in the process.

One facet that has particularly interested me is the different in driving experience between an F1 racing car and a powerful road car, capable of travelling at similar speeds, a Bugatti Veyron (say). One has lite, twitchy steering and requires lightning fast responses to maintain in a straight line. The other seemingly requiring much less steering effort but still demanding a high degree of concentration. The contrast in driving style seems most profound. Is this difference simply due to the mass of the vehicle, its steering geometry, its suspension, its power or a combination of each plus a considerable dollup of skill? Are the skills that different?

I recall seeing James May, a co-presenter on the "Top Gear" programme driving a Bugatti Veyron, admittedly on a near-straight road, at incredible speed with little more effort than a lesser vehicle travelling at 80mph (say). I don't consider May to be an adept racing driver, like the Stig, because his tastes in motors and driving style seem more laid back that either Hammond or Clarkson. How would May fare in an F1 car?

What skills could the average driver learn from his racing counterpart that could improve his everyday performance on the road? Having never driven a really powerful car and only ever sat in a stationery F1 racing car, it is difficult for me to imagine how they compare when in motion.

My C230K feels twitchy at 100mph and I could not imagine myself driving it to its maximum on anything less than smooth, wide, straight roads which you rarely find in the UK. How could I become a smoother, more competent driver at the limit on UK roads? What skills have racing drivers got that I lack that could benefit me and the vast amjority of drivers like me?

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I don't think the car is the main issue

it's the drivers's mind-set. Really reading the road, hazard awareness, getting into the physics and mechanics of what makes your car tick and stick, that's what it's all about.

Give a numpty a Veyron and he will prang it, guaranteed. Give stig a Chevrolet Lacetti, and he will set the track on fire.

You can find your own limitations in any car. Using a super-car to do it just increases the bill at the end when you get it wrong.

Simple things like classroom training and study into the whats and hows of controlling a vehicle can pay dividends, without even putting a tyre on a track. The track is just the icing on the cake.
 

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Being a biker it has made me a much better and confident car driver I feel. I'm much more aware of the potential dangers/hazards on the roads. I'm not boasting here but I've had an indicated 184mph on my digital bike speedo and in comparison high speeds in cars feel like you are just cruising at 75-80mph.
 

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Being a biker it has made me a much better and confident car driver I feel. I'm much more aware of the potential dangers/hazards on the roads.
I agree entirely. I've ridden bikes for the last 30 years (Lord, I sound like an old fart here already!) and still ride approx 8k miles a year on a bike. Without question that riding experience has made me a much better car driver.

Apart from the obvious imperative that getting it wrong on a bike could easily cost you your life, bikes don't change direction at speed as willingly as cars and neither are thay as stable under braking, so observation and hazard perception skills have to be well developed to allow the proper planning which is a cornerstone of safe, brisk, driving. On a bike you cannot afford to be unaware of changes in road surface, patches of damp tarmac and other factors which affect grip. You also need to understand the physics of acceleration, braking and cornering in terms of how the suspension behaves as each end of the bike loads up and unloads and how that affects grip. Many car drivers are woefuly unaware of some or all of these factors and therfore either lack the confidence to use their vehicle effectively, or overestimate what they can achieve with potentially disastrous consequences.

My advice for anyone who wants to hone their road driving skills is not to look to track driving, but rather to seek out a RoSPA Advanced driving instructor or join a local IAM group with an open mind and a willingness to learn. I'm yet to meet someone who has done this who doesn't enjoy their driving more as a result of their improved driving skills.
 

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Being a biker it has made me a much better and confident car driver I feel. I'm much more aware of the potential dangers/hazards on the roads. I'm not boasting here but I've had an indicated 184mph on my digital bike speedo and in comparison high speeds in cars feel like you are just cruising at 75-80mph.

Obviously on a rolling road (remember the idiot who showed his film on You Tube of him speeding :rolleyes: )
 

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Obviously on a rolling road (remember the idiot who showed his film on You Tube of him speeding :rolleyes: )

Helen,, your car is parked by the road side :confused:
 

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Phil (earlier on there) made a good point about doing an advanced driving course.

When I did mine several (in fact, many) years ago, you had to give a running commentary on what you were seeing ahead and behind. When you start seeing it, so that you can then speak it, you become aware of much more going on around you.

At least that's always been my excuse for excursions above the national limit on the delightful M6 Toll road ...... Buy an M6 Toll tag, drive there in the early hours, and you might just see one other car .... bliss. Strangely though, Norton Canes service station appears to be permanently busy whatever the hour.
 
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