School Speed Watch

[Retired]

What do you think of this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/8065996.stm

 

[television]

Not a bad thing I think, and why not

 

[Danny341]

I guess it cant help to guilt people into feeling bad about it...

My feelings, would be to give out 6 points a time if caught speeding outside a school... I hate to see it i really really do!

 

[Alex M Grieve]

I guess it cant help to guilt people into feeling bad about it...

My feelings, would be to give out 6 points a time if caught speeding outside a school... I hate to see it i really really do!

One of the "contingency lawyers" (no sale, no fee) is advertising on TV at present. It goes like this:

There were lots of kids at the bus stop. I slowed down but the other driver did not see me. He reversed straight out. I couldn't avoid him. I was badly injured and the car was a write off. I got £x compensation and "they" have re-sited that bus stop".

It beggars belief. What if a child had dashed out (the driver had already spotted the hazard, children at the bus stop), how fast was he going?

If he was going slowly, how did he manage to write his car off and worse still, with a seatbelt and airbag, why was he injured?

Indeed, instead of compensation he should probably be in jail, or off for remedial training.

In another of their efforts, the person speaking to camera jumps back when a car fails to stop as he is about to use a zebra crossing. He then proceeds to cross, looking left (!) whilst doing his piece to camera. But the traffic comes from the right in this country, daddy?

In a third, some stupid woman trips on redundant wrapping on a factory floor, damages her knee and gets a shed load of compensation. In the final scene she is seen tidying redundant wrapping into a dust bin with a concluding note of smug satisfaction. If she had done that in the first place - no "accident", no pain and suffering, no compensation. Why was she not sacked rather than compensated?

Is it me, or are people genuinely allowed to be this stupid and then expect you and I to pay for the NHS and "them" to compensate?

I suppose this is what we know as the compensation culture. Some culture!

 

[Xtractorfan]

Alex it would seem watching channel 5 is bad for your health and good for your wealth.. The other one I like is the one where you can check your credit file FREE OF CHARGE. but you have to put in credit card details to do it..then if you forget to cancel they charge you..and these are the people who are also out there to stop fraud etc.. EXPERIAN I think..

 

[Cole@MBS]

I think and agree, the whole point is, when coming to a school zone, slow down, it might cost you 10 seconds on your journey but that's got to be better than taking a child's life !!!

 

[D1gger5]

Not only school zones, the next village to mine in one direction has had two accidents in the past 12 months, one fatal and one head on. It is a 30 MPH zone but I have had cars pass me through there doing 45+.

Before the next village in another direction there is a 60 dgree bend in a 30 zone. In the first five months of 2006 there had been 8 cars go off the road there.

Xtractorfan - YEP I've been caught out by that scam.
Alex - these ambulance chasers are annoying (fighting lost causes for stupid people). Along with the adverts for loans, logbook loans, payday loans, crapcraft (SIC), etc - everything for the gullible "keeping up with the Jones on the never never at extortionate APR"

 

[Alex M Grieve]

Alex it would seem watching channel 5 is bad for your health and good for your wealth.. The other one I like is the one where you can check your credit file FREE OF CHARGE. but you have to put in credit card details to do it..then if you forget to cancel they charge you..and these are the people who are also out there to stop fraud etc.. EXPERIAN I think..

Yes I had wondered if that was the way the "Free break down service" offered by some petrol companies worked?

Sign up now and it is free for 14 days, but don't forget to sign off!

 

[Xtractorfan]

Well we've kinda sussed the bankers and the MPs. no good reson why we shouldnt out the shark business guys next..
Oh and apologies to RETIRED for hijacking his thread...yea seems a good idea the kids talking to the errant motorists, just need to publish a list of the schools taking part so I can avoid them..

 

[Quick Silver]

One of the "contingency lawyers" (no sale, no fee) is advertising on TV at present. It goes like this:

There were lots of kids at the bus stop. I slowed down but the other driver did not see me. He reversed straight out. I couldn't avoid him. I was badly injured and the car was a write off. I got £x compensation and "they" have re-sited that bus stop".

It beggars belief. What if a child had dashed out (the driver had already spotted the hazard, children at the bus stop), how fast was he going?

If he was going slowly, how did he manage to write his car off and worse still, with a seatbelt and airbag, why was he injured?

Indeed, instead of compensation he should probably be in jail, or off for remedial training.

In another of their efforts, the person speaking to camera jumps back when a car fails to stop as he is about to use a zebra crossing. He then proceeds to cross, looking left (!) whilst doing his piece to camera. But the traffic comes from the right in this country, daddy?

In a third, some stupid woman trips on redundant wrapping on a factory floor, damages her knee and gets a shed load of compensation. In the final scene she is seen tidying redundant wrapping into a dust bin with a concluding note of smug satisfaction. If she had done that in the first place - no "accident", no pain and suffering, no compensation. Why was she not sacked rather than compensated?

Is it me, or are people genuinely allowed to be this stupid and then expect you and I to pay for the NHS and "them" to compensate?

I suppose this is what we know as the compensation culture. Some culture!

You want to drive a cab then you will see how stupid people really are in this country and all ages too, things never used to be like this and I've driven cabs for many years .

A little while back a colleague of mine was driving his cab with a husband and wife on the back seat when he had to brake sharply because a young kid had ridden his push bike straight into road without any warning and the passengers came of the back seat and hurt their faces on the back of the front seat headrests and they made a successful claim for compensation against the driver .They were adults and have a legal responsibility to wear a seatbelt and yet this was not taken into account , for children fourteen and under it is the drivers responsibility not the parents ,aunts, uncles etc and you want to see the abuse we get when we refuse to carry them because they won't/don't wear a seat belt .If we force the issue with children we can be done for assault and god knows what else and yet if we permit it the poor old driver cops it .

This country has gone barmy with all its PC crap and nanny state laws because people are so stupid that they need protecting from themselves.

Yes Alex those adds really bug me as well.

 

[rovingHawk]

What do you think of this?

If they're doing something wrong then they should be have legal process applied.

If it's ok for them to be let off after a chat with some kids then they're presumably not doing anything massively wrong, so why detain them?

I think it's a poorly thought-out gimmick to make the police feel they're doing something and give PTA members a warm, fuzzy feeling.

RH

 

[Splatt]

If they're doing something wrong then they should be have legal process applied.

If it's ok for them to be let off after a chat with some kids then they're presumably not doing anything massively wrong, so why detain them?

I think it's a poorly thought-out gimmick to make the police feel they're doing something and give PTA members a warm, fuzzy feeling.

RH

I think it is a damned good and socially relevent idea . We live in an area which is on an "A" route with 30mph limit and it also feeds 3 schools the children of which have to travel along and cross the road. Getting motorists to bahave responsiby is an on going problem especially as the government has halved our policing budget to send funds up north. To focus the brain cell of these motorists and let them look into the eyes of the kids they are putting at risk and might just kill could just be a wake up call.

 

[Retired]

Agree that speed limits should be rigorously enforced outside schools. Should probably be 20limit during drop off / pick up times.

I know the school in question very well. I pass it 4 or 5 times a day. It sits in the ‘v’ formed by two roads. One side of the ‘v’ is 40 limit the other is 30. There is no logic to this as both road are equally busy and have exactly the same characteristics. There are two entrances to the school, one on each road and they are equally used.

I have never over about 4 years seen a speed trap at this site before this. The speed trap in question was set up mid morning when it’s pretty quiet.

Looks like a gimmick to me.

Better to have appropriate speed limits and properly enforce them, especially when the kids are active.

 

[rovingHawk]

By who ? Government funding cuts year on year have decimated Police staff levels in Surrey.

Just a suggestion, you understand: how about the same police who are conducting the touchy-feely exercise here?

RH

 

[Splatt]

If this is effective then it will save police time and money as well as lives . After all we see enough posts on this forum saying speeding fines are only to raise money , here is one initiative that is not .

 

[rovingHawk]

If this is effective

If not, it achieves neither safety nor revenue.

RH

 

[Splatt]

Would you not consider being given a rollocking by the school kids thought provoking ?

 

[rovingHawk]

a rollocking by the school kids

Similar to being savaged by Bambi, really.

RH

 

[Splatt]

I bet you would rather take the fine and points on your license

 

[rovingHawk]

That's pretty much my whole point- I'd sit through the whole silly charade, consider it as getting off lightly and see no reason to change any behaviour.

(btw- I consider I drive fairly safely)

I'd see it as a silly gimmick and laugh at the whole system.

RH