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Simple solution: Remove alloy wheels stuck/seized to hub

Discussion in 'Bodywork, Tyres, Wheels & Trim' started by Conor, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. Conor

    Conor Senior Member

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    Hi guys,

    Was doing a little work on the car today and was having an awful time getting the wheels off.. they were seized, which is quite common.

    This also worked on the rears a few months ago, so thought I would share as it might help somebody out.

    It was quite simply really.

    • Keep one wheel nut in the wheel/hub - 50% closed. This will prevent the wheel falling unpredictably.
    • Lay on back in front of wheel
    • Place a foot on each side of the wheel (left / right)
    • You are now laying down at 90 degrees / perpendicular to the car with both feet on the wheel. One on the left hand side and one on the right hand side.
    • Bang your feet on the wheel one side at a time..imagine like a spoiled child might do when they don't get their way.
    • After a few bangs the wheel should loosen.
    This seems to work really well and is easy. Simply standing up and kicking one side at a time just doesn't work. I think it's the rapid banging on both sides just works the seized material apart.

    As follow up work, to prevent future seizure - clean rust with wire brush wipe down with brake fluid and add anti-seize grease before replacing the wheel.

    This is a simple hack but I don't often get to share any tips :)

    ...And no, I don't have a video of me doing this :p
     
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    Block of wood and 3lb lump
    Hammer. Repeat until wheel is loose
     
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    I actually was trying that.. and I am sure it would work but it was quite loud and I am already conscious of my car repairs in residential area where it is forbidden. But yea is also a good solution.
     
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    Jesus invented scaffold poles and sometimes leaves small pieces around.
     
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    Used both methods and both effective.
    A word of warning about antiseize compounds like copper grease - do not apply to the face of the hub. Only apply to the inside of the hole in the center of the wheel.
    Think of the wheel hub interface as a clutch and the bolts as the clamping force on the clutch. The bolts are not intended to transfer power, that's done via friction between the wheel and hub.
     
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    Not sure a block of wood would be soft enough to not damage a rim .... :confused:


    Years ago my numpty brother in law asked me to look at his car. The long story short was that he'd run out of front pads miles ago, the rim was full of rusty lining etc and the wheel wouldn't come off. The wheel was eventually parted from the hub by slackening all the nuts off by a turn .... launching the car at one end of the drive & standing on the brakes, a loud bang later & the rim let go of the hub!
     
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    I’ve no damaged one yet, but I accept your concerns. Nice soft wood and very hard hammer
     
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    I'll let you off then .... ;)
     
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    Take all bolts out and slowly let the jack down works.
     
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    Siiigh, is this for real? I added anti seize to all the face (red) and rim of hub (blue). How bad is that? I have seen it done that way many places online.. (I know that's not authority, but if it's common can't be too bad).

    :(

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    Yes for real.
    Around the blue is all you should do.
    It's not the end of the world but it does stress wheel bolts more.
     
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    I’ve had to loosen wheel bolts a few turns then slalom a car down the street before to loosen stuck wheels...
     
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    I tend to paint a smear of anti-seize on the face of the hub too ..... by rights you shouldn't grease wheel bolts/nuts, but I give them a wipe of anti-seize too as in the past I've struggled to remove bolts/nuts on cars where they've been dry & rusty.
     
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    Hmm..ok. Well, it's unfortunate to have done it wrong.

    I can undo and scrape off if needed, but if it's not the end of the world then I will leave it.
     
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    So at home, with all tool's available, Car jacked up on stand's, remove all wheel nuts except 1, which will be unscrewed out a few thread's. Long wooden plank, "Whack" to the bottom of the wheel on the tyre, turn wheel a bit, "Whack" again, turn wheel again, "Whack", repeat until the wheel loosen's. Then really good wire brushing on the hub, and the same on the wheel center . Light greasing on the hub and wheel center, and that's it.:geek:.
    BUT!!! in real Life situations, it will be Night time..( and it will be cold wet and windy )...The torch you keep in the boot for emergency's will have a flat battery, so you will have to work by the light of the traffic passing by..That's when your ingenuity will be tested !!! :cool:
     
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    Or the phone reception as you call breakdown assistance :cool::)
     
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    Or you just pump that gunk into the wheel....:mad:. Both our cars have no spare.....
     
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    if this happens to me i back off the bolts/nuts by a few threads then drive the car in a circle ,lock to lock backwards forwards , has always worked the tyre scrubbing action loosens them .
     
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