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- 2014 639 Viano- 651, 5sp Auto. 2009 S211- 646, 5sp Auto.
2014 Viano 639.
OM651, 2.1
165K miles.
I've read a couple with similar issue but not read a definitive diagnosis as yet, so in hope.
I noticed yesterday at about ambient -4 on start up after about 3 seconds there is smoke, with a fuel smell.
It starts easily and runs very well.
I drive and when stationary (lights /junctions) there is smoke evident until approx 50 degrees engine temp, then it runs cleanly.
I'm aware that these over fuel when cold, but this seems like excessive overfuel and I wouldn't expect same at such engine temps.
2nd issue possibly related but don't think so.
With a new stat from MB Newcastle.
Still slow to warm up (common for the 651 apparently). It was fast enough to get to the 50 degrees but after 16 miles (6 miles of cruising at 70+) the temp was at 72, by 18 miles (more gentle driving) had dropped to 67 again.
I' m aware that the ECU now controls the stat and design temp is said to be 70 - 100 degrees, but this still seems like a faulty stat, any thoughts.
MB Newcastle say it has a 2year g'tee and to take it to a main dealer for diagnostic. I would expect a bill for £150 for that and a possible free unwanted update to the ECU, so I'm reluctant. Beside I don't see that Star can diagnose a faulty stat, that takes a drive, a flippin' long one in my experience.
Thoughts appreciated.
OM651, 2.1
165K miles.
I've read a couple with similar issue but not read a definitive diagnosis as yet, so in hope.
I noticed yesterday at about ambient -4 on start up after about 3 seconds there is smoke, with a fuel smell.
It starts easily and runs very well.
I drive and when stationary (lights /junctions) there is smoke evident until approx 50 degrees engine temp, then it runs cleanly.
I'm aware that these over fuel when cold, but this seems like excessive overfuel and I wouldn't expect same at such engine temps.
2nd issue possibly related but don't think so.
With a new stat from MB Newcastle.
Still slow to warm up (common for the 651 apparently). It was fast enough to get to the 50 degrees but after 16 miles (6 miles of cruising at 70+) the temp was at 72, by 18 miles (more gentle driving) had dropped to 67 again.
I' m aware that the ECU now controls the stat and design temp is said to be 70 - 100 degrees, but this still seems like a faulty stat, any thoughts.
MB Newcastle say it has a 2year g'tee and to take it to a main dealer for diagnostic. I would expect a bill for £150 for that and a possible free unwanted update to the ECU, so I'm reluctant. Beside I don't see that Star can diagnose a faulty stat, that takes a drive, a flippin' long one in my experience.
Thoughts appreciated.