Starting Handle & hole at front to put it in?

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Can anyone remember the last car they owned that came with a starting handle supplied with car from new?

My old Standard 10 and early minis with floor mounted starting button were all supplied with these.

Fond memories of my uncle almost dislocating his shoulder trying to get his Humber Hawk restarted after battery flattening out.

The knack to it as i recall was to find the most resistant stroke before pushing down in a strenuous way and letting go immediately before it kicked back and fractured your arm in some cases.
Maybe similar to the kickstart on old BSA / TRIUMPH'S.

Do motorbikes still come with a kick start ?
 
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I've never owned a car with a crank handle ;) And my 97 TDM850 is electric start only though my Suzuki from the 70s was kick start only.
 

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Had an old herald with a handle, not sure a mini had one tho, transverse engine and all that?
(Don’t fold your thumb over the handle).
 

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I seem to remember an early Mini with a starting handle that went through the nearside wheel arch?
Or it was offset through the grille to the nearside?
Sounds crazy, but the mental picture is definitely there.
Does anyone else remember such a thing? Please ...!
 

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Does anyone else remember such a thing? Please ...!

Wot you been drinking? I'll have some.:)

If you think back to the Mini then the radiator was sited low down and the crankshaft would have been just above the wheel hub. The only way I think it could work if the the dog was on the dynamo but then the inner wing wouldn't have had the strength to support the forces.

I remember the Standards. I had a Standard 8. The one without a boot. Well, it had a boot but the only way in was to fold down the rear seat backs.:p I put a Herald 1200 engine in mine. Great fun.:D
 

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I remember in my first job removing the handcrank start facility from Pratt & Whitney R-1830 engines out of DC-3 Dakotas thus making them Koffman start only.

That always impressed me... imagine hand cranking a 30 litre engine!!!
 

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Hand cranking a 3500 V8... Like that's not going to hurt when you get it wrong (apparently broken wrists and arms were a real risk).
 

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Wot you been drinking? I'll have some.:)

Courvoisier, as it happens - but the mental image was there before I raised the first glass!
I am certain that there was a weird starting handle arrangement on the early Minis.
Dunno how I'd go about checking that out, but the record must be there somewhere.

Or else ... Getting old and senile.
 

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I seem to remember an early Mini with a starting handle that went through the nearside wheel arch?
Or it was offset through the grille to the nearside?
Sounds crazy, but the mental picture is definitely there.
Does anyone else remember such a thing? Please ...!

I think you're correct as I have a vague memory of the crank bolt on my first mini (1962 mini traveller) having the dogs on it for a crank handle. I know the Cooper S (1965 1275) one didn't.
 

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Thanks Naraic.
I am not going mad after all!
I had visions of my father putting a long starting handle into a Mini wheel well, and that photo link is exactly as I remembered it.

Back to the brandy!
 

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Renault 4 which I had from new came with a starting handle, I also had a second hand Citroen Mehari for a few months which had a starting handle ( and a trafficlutch which was great when stuck in a traffic jam )
 

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Dad had a Morris Minor.
Crank! Nothing.
Crank! Nothing.
Crank! Fire. "Ahhhh, fu*****"
 

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Not sure what year this Lada would be, maybe someone can work it out from the registration plate (NTU 230V).

I can see what appear to be green and brown wheelie bins in the background, can't make out the other cars or indeed if they have UK reg plates.

http://auclip.net/play/clip-lada-2102-starting-from-cold-using-starting-handle-AuPRMaXqKqJa0.html


edit: apparently went on sale in Britain May 1974, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAZ-2101

First registered 13/08/79!
 
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Dad had a Morris Minor.
Crank! Nothing.
Crank! Nothing.
Crank! Fire. "Ahhhh, fu*****"

Ahhh how well i remember, cuddled up in mums arms while dad had to get out in the rain to crank the car, while mum n aunty on the back seats, were trying to suppress giggling at him, and then being more than cheeky to ask that he make cups of tea from the meth's stove in a metal biscuit tin in the boot.

Oh such language after that request had us all in fits of laughter all the way home, in the battleship grey Ford Popular mk1.
 
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Was that the E93A, or the 100E? I used to have a couple of new starter motors for the E93A. The 'solenoid', if you could call it that, was cable operated.:)

Thats a very good question - that deserves a very good answer.
 

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