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Is it just me or do others find some very odd attitudes on this forum?

Example, a man who bought an E coupe and then complained that it was too small, did they lie to him, did they show him a false mock up,are the measurements in the brochures lies? Or is he just a bit slow.

Example, someone who bought a car which apparently is not very kind to tyres,because they are low profile and need replacing every once in a while. Had he known he would have bought something else. Duh! the price of a few tyres extra over the life of thousands of pounds worth of car is that important. Odd.

Example, people with 15 year old cars who complain bitterly about rust,what did they think they are made of,what do they expect? If you pay little you get little,just enjoy what you have.

Example people who have their car serviced by Fred down the road because he is cheap and then get outraged because Merc are not willing to provide free replacement of items that fail because of it.
Merc don't make cars, they make money by making cars and you enter into a contract with them over servicing, if you are not prepared to honour the terms of the contract then don't be surprised if the, in turn, do not do so too.
 

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....except that other similarly premium cars don't rust at the same rate as MB do.

All the rest...correct.;)
 
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Best one's we get are people who believe their car is worth mega bucks. We do a valuation and then oh dear.... reality kicks in.....

"Sir I realise that you car has done 250,000 miles, but this does not mean its worth £250,000 because its lasted so long.... its worth £250 because, er Well, Its knackered.....do you want to pay £25 for an classified advert"....."hello sir"....."oh he's gone to"...:rolleyes:
 

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This is reflected in all the car mags in the sales section.

When I have been looking for a car one often comes across a private add where the price is a few grand over the dealer prices. The add also says on hawkers or canvassers. Looking at the photo's in the Autumn, and seeing snow from the previous year makes me laugh .
 

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If people only valued cars the way they do houses, and instead of becoming worthless wrecks, they actually appreciated if they were older but looked after well.

How different and happier the world would be. ;)

Well actually some are :)
 

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If people only valued cars the way they do houses, and instead of becoming worthless wrecks, they actually appreciated if they were older but looked after well.

How different and happier the world would be. ;)

Well actually some are :)

And the car makers give you a new car free of charge to start it all off;)
 
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....except that other similarly premium cars don't rust at the same rate as MB do.

All the rest...correct.;)

I always wonder about that,I know this site resounds with bitter complaints about rust and without doubt MB did go through a rough patch a few years ago but it seems I see far more really old Mercs in what appears to be excellent or at least good condition than any other single make. Is it also that as merc enthusiasts we voice our feelings more here and there are thousands of drivers of old mercs who just drive them. It is not just in the UK but all over Europe that I see them.

This may be because as a Merc owner I spot them more,as no doubt we all do,or that people battle to keep mercs in good condition,or the old ones I see are from the "hewn out of granite" period. Maybe a mix of all the factors,anyone have an opinion?
 

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My wife had a Seat Cordoba from new for 12 years. The day she got it she ripped off a front mud flap leaving two jagged bare metal holes in the edge of the front wing.

When we finally replaced the car the two jagged holes were still there...they hadn't progressed...an MB would have been rather more rusty at the same points.
 

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I always wonder about that,I know this site resounds with bitter complaints about rust and without doubt MB did go through a rough patch a few years ago but it seems I see far more really old Mercs in what appears to be excellent or at least good condition than any other single make. Is it also that as merc enthusiasts we voice our feelings more here and there are thousands of drivers of old mercs who just drive them. It is not just in the UK but all over Europe that I see them.

This may be because as a Merc owner I spot them more,as no doubt we all do,or that people battle to keep mercs in good condition,or the old ones I see are from the "hewn out of granite" period. Maybe a mix of all the factors,anyone have an opinion?

I think that the mechanics on the MB are very good and in spite of some rust they do keep going where many other cars have long been scrapped, so more old mercedes on the road than others.
 

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Merc don't make cars, they make money by making cars and you enter into a contract with them over servicing, if you are not prepared to honour the terms of the contract then don't be surprised if the, in turn, do not do so too.

I don't remember ever entering into a contract with them over servicing! Even if I had done, my car would still be rusty and MB would probably not repair it FOC for 30 years, although the service book said they would.

I have absolutely no complaints about the mechanicals of my car, it is the quality of the bodywork that is disgraceful. Whether it is the metal or paint (or both) to blame, I am unsure.

At present I am not too bothered because I do a high mileage and expect the mechanicals to expire at the same time as the body. If I was doing a "normal" 10 - 15 K miles per year, the mechanicals would outlast the body by a factor of 2 or 3.
 
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I don't remember ever entering into a contract with them over servicing! Even if I had done, my car would still be rusty and MB would probably not repair it FOC for 30 years, although the service book said they would.

I have absolutely no complaints about the mechanicals of my car, it is the quality of the bodywork that is disgraceful. Whether it is the metal or paint (or both) to blame, I am unsure.

At present I am not too bothered because I do a high mileage and expect the mechanicals to expire at the same time as the body. If I was doing a "normal" 10 - 15 K miles per year, the mechanicals would outlast the body by a factor of 2 or 3.

You may not recall it but if you buy a new MB then you will see their conditions for bodywork upkeep in your handbook,if you adhere to those conditions then they will maintain the body against rust from inside for I think 30 years. Void their conditions and you void the warranty. That is a contract, an agreement between two or more parties. The contract, like all contracts is enforceable at law. The argument about if one would choose so to do and at what cost is an entirely separate one.
 

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You may not recall it but if you buy a new MB then you will see their conditions for bodywork upkeep in your handbook,if you adhere to those conditions then they will maintain the body against rust from inside for I think 30 years. Void their conditions and you void the warranty. That is a contract, an agreement between two or more parties. The contract, like all contracts is enforceable at law. The argument about if one would choose so to do and at what cost is an entirely separate one.

Mercedes also say that the bodywork is inspected on all services, the only snag is the car gets washed after the service and from that point on no one sees the car as it is put back to the collection point.
 

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Oh no.....this is not going into a Rust thread is it !!!! "run for the hills" said Mercedes-Benz dealer!!!
 

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Oh no.....this is not going into a Rust thread is it !!!! "run for the hills" said Mercedes-Benz dealer!!!

We could have a positive aspect to it all to see has the rustiest mercedes
 
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Oh no.....this is not going into a Rust thread is it !!!! "run for the hills" said Mercedes-Benz dealer!!!

Which hills are infested with Mercedes dealers,should be some good shooting to be had? Or is a sitting duck a little unfair?
 

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We could have a positive aspect to it all to see has the rustiest mercedes

I've got a pretty good example...though I have been cutting out recently...but I do have the "before" pics.
 
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I've got a pretty good example...though I have been cutting out recently...but I do have the "before" pics.

If you photograph a hole how can we see it and how do we know it is a genuine hole and not just one you picked up elsewhere? Could be a Ford hole for all we know. I for one am prepared to take it on trust but Mercedes may well claim you got that hole from an independent and it was not up to Mercedes specification.
 

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If you photograph a hole how can we see it and how do we know it is a genuine hole and not just one you picked up elsewhere? Could be a Ford hole for all we know. I for one am prepared to take it on trust but Mercedes may well claim you got that hole from an independent and it was not up to Mercedes specification.

I have photographed the hole on the whole...as it were.

First the wide shot of the vehicle, then a little closer to identify the offending panel...then closer still with the rim of the hole in the whole picture.
 


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