Vario Roof problem on my SL500

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
Yesterday I was standing behind the car whilst 'er indoors was raising the roof and I was horrified to hear a nasty crunching sound. At first I though a twig or foreign body had got caught up in the mechanism but then I noticed it was coming from the ns rear light cluster. It appears that as the boot lid opens and closes it catches the very top edge of the light making an awful sound. We've only had the car a couple of months (2002 model) and I've not noticed it before. It has obviously been doing it for a little while though as its taken some paint of the lip of the boot lid.

I've thought for a long time that the mechanism is a little 'wobbly' but I read somewhere that some play was normal. Does anyone know if its easy to adjust the roof mechaism or should I take it in to a Merc dealer?

Cheers
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #2
Yesterday I was standing behind the car whilst 'er indoors was raising the roof and I was horrified to hear a nasty crunching sound. At first I though a twig or foreign body had got caught up in the mechanism but then I noticed it was coming from the ns rear light cluster. It appears that as the boot lid opens and closes it catches the very top edge of the light making an awful sound. We've only had the car a couple of months (2002 model) and I've not noticed it before. It has obviously been doing it for a little while though as its taken some paint of the lip of the boot lid.

I've thought for a long time that the mechanism is a little 'wobbly' but I read somewhere that some play was normal. Does anyone know if its easy to adjust the roof mechaism or should I take it in to a Merc dealer?

Cheers
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
wait till later in the day
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
The first two pics show the first movement, the end near the seats rises more than the rear end, and that has hardly moved.

The next three show it a bit further on the lap end has started to rise and the seat end has risen more.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0791.JPG
    IMG_0791.JPG
    31.8 KB · Views: 29
  • IMG_0792.JPG
    IMG_0792.JPG
    30.2 KB · Views: 23
  • IMG_0790.JPG
    IMG_0790.JPG
    23.9 KB · Views: 22
  • IMG_0789.JPG
    IMG_0789.JPG
    41.4 KB · Views: 27
  • IMG_0788.JPG
    IMG_0788.JPG
    39.9 KB · Views: 29

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
There is no adjustment,I think the the linkages are too tight, With mine I sprayed all of the moving joints with the slick 50 PTFE spray and the boot side that was hard to close when I bought the car now closes with just a downward flip and it closes itself.

This lubricant is transparent just put a piece of rag the other side when you spray. You will need to stop the roof at various points to get to them all.

Try this first
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0793.JPG
    IMG_0793.JPG
    78.6 KB · Views: 35

type49

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 9, 2005
Messages
1,601
Reaction score
1
If you've only had the car a few months then it should have a warranty. It appears to need adjusting but this is almost impossible to say without seeing it. There are various parts to adjust but get it wrong & you could open up a can of worms. As to the "wobble", they can move about a bit during operation, this is normal.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
If you've only had the car a few months then it should have a warranty. It appears to need adjusting but this is almost impossible to say without seeing it. There are various parts to adjust but get it wrong & you could open up a can of worms. As to the "wobble", they can move about a bit during operation, this is normal.

There must be 2 threads on this,I have put up photos with some idea's
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #9
There is no adjustment,I think the the linkages are too tight, With mine I sprayed all of the moving joints with the slick 50 PTFE spray and the boot side that was hard to close when I bought the car now closes with just a downward flip and it closes itself.

This lubricant is transparent just put a piece of rag the other side when you spray. You will need to stop the roof at various points to get to them all.

Try this first

Thanks Malcolm,
As usual your assistance is second to none.

I've not had a chance to really have a good look at the mechanism but I'm not sure lubrication will cure it (I'll give it a go all the same).

It seems to be actually out of line, but why it's moved I dont know. Its the lip of the boot lid just to the left of the SL badge that clips the top of the light cluster as it closes-it misses it when opening.

I'll see if I can take a look tonight and report back.

Other than this niggle I can safely say the SL is a FANTASTIC piece of kit!
:D
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
If one side is too tight, it will go out of line.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
I forgot to say that the roof will only operate correctly on level ground.

Mine will not close on my driveway
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #12
I forgot to say that the roof will only operate correctly on level ground.

Mine will not close on my driveway

I didn't know that thanks. Both times I noticed the the 'crunching' it was on the level. I suppose you could be right if one side is not moving freely it could kick the whole boot lid off line. I'm a bit more optimistic now! I'll lube up the moment I get in :shock: and report back.

Thanks Malcolm.
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #13
If you've only had the car a few months then it should have a warranty. It appears to need adjusting but this is almost impossible to say without seeing it. There are various parts to adjust but get it wrong & you could open up a can of worms. As to the "wobble", they can move about a bit during operation, this is normal.

Thanks for the input.

I think the warranty was for Engine and Gearbox only. But if it does turn out to be a major problem I think I'll give the dealer a call.

As Malcolm points out this iis a duplicate thread (my PC was playing up yesterday) I'll not post here any more.
 

Blobcat

Moderator
Joined
Feb 8, 2006
Messages
40,168
Reaction score
29,814
Location
Grange Moor
Your Mercedes
R171 SLK280, Smart R451, Land Rover 110 County SW, 997 C2S, R1250 GSA TE 40th, CBR600FP

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
I have found a special document for your cars fault ask for doc number from MB,it is not for the light hearted as the boot trim has to be taken out.

AF77.33-P-2002A
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #16
OH Lordy!:(

I havent had a chance to get to the shops as yet for my can of lubricant. I'll give it a go at the weekend and revert with my progress.

Thanks again Malcolm.
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #17
I have found a special document for your cars fault ask for doc number from MB,it is not for the light hearted as the boot trim has to be taken out.

AF77.33-P-2002A

I sprayed the mechanism but to no avail. I've booked in with the Merc people at Colchester for Wednesday. Gulp.

I'll let you know what they say when they've had a look.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
It will be the adjustment that I put up in answer 15 it is a lot of work to do this adjustment
 
OP
W

Welski

Active Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Location
East country by the sea.
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #19
It will be the adjustment that I put up in answer 15 it is a lot of work to do this adjustment

That's what I was thinking Malcolm -Oh dear!

On another issue; Do you remember when you helped me when I was buying the car with regard the model etc. You mentioned at the time that the wheels on the car made it look a little dated.

I really noticed it at the Merc dealers. I couldnt work out why my car looked so odd alongside cars of a similar age. Until I looked at the wheels!

Could you recommend any good on-line outlets and is there anything I should be wary of when buying alloys?

Cheers as always appreciate your advice.
 

television

Always remembered RIP
Joined
Mar 14, 2005
Messages
164,073
Reaction score
377
Age
89
Location
Daventry
Your Mercedes
2002 SL500, 216 CL500, all fully loaded
Just though of one easy way maybe, there is a modified rubber boot stop known as the 3 rib stop this just screws onto the side replacing the existing 2 rib stop
 


Comand (Europe) Ltd are the leading specialists in supplying and fitting Comand, Linguatronic, Media interface kits, UHI phone, IPod interfaces and much more.
Top Bottom