W124 estate model range & timeline

[Bolide]

I've updated my W124 estate UK Model Range page to include the W124 estate Timeline I've been working on. The Model Range description has undergone a lot of revision and this will probably continue

All corrections & comments very welcome!

http://www.w124.co.uk/modelrange.html

Nick Froome
www.w124.co.uk

 

[television]

Thank you Nick,,this does make a very useful link to direct people to.

I like that you added the bit about the plastic side panels being expensive, £1200 plus the paint £100 in 1990 I still have my bank details, no drilling though they used the existing holes.

Anything that I find I will pass over to you, but I cant think that there could be much more, the list is so comprehensive

 

[Wile7]

Very useful indeed. Thank you Nick.
David

 

[Bolide]

I've updated the timeline to explain more accurately the M103 / M104 engine overlap

http://www.w124.co.uk/modelrange.html

Nick Froome
www.w124.co.uk

 

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Hi Nick,, I would have said that the 5 speed gear box did not come until around 1992 where it was an option on the multi valve engined cars, I have some price list around some where for that year, and I will do my best to find them for you, I did put them up on the forum way back in 2005-6

 

[Bolide]

Malcolm

I think we've established it was available from 1989. Someone had a 1990 5-speed, anyway

Thinking about it, it seems logical for the 5-speed to appear at the same time as the 300-24 engine and that combo was used in the R129 as well as the W124

Of course the 300-24 predates the all-electronic AFM engines so the 5-speed control system either changed or was piggy-backed onto the later cars. The reports that the 5-speed cars have a speed sensor in the speedo suggests the latter to me

Nick Froome
www.w124.co.uk

 

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I have had a look at all the documents that I have and there was a mod on the 5 speed box in 07-91 that more or less puts it into the first 6 cylinder engined cars, and as the 89 car was for 1990 then you are spot on as usual, and thats all that matters.
Thank you Nick

 

[Bolide]

Here's a question: was the 5-speed auto ever offered with an M103 engine? In other words, are there any 300E/TEs out there with a 5-speed auto?

I've never seen one and I have a suspicion that it was only ever seen on 300-24s and the other M104-engine cars

Anyone ever had a 5-speed auto 300?

Timeline V3
http://www.w124.co.uk/modelrange.html

Nick Froome
www.w124.co.uk

 

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Here's a question: was the 5-speed auto ever offered with an M103 engine? In other words, are there any 300E/TEs out there with a 5-speed auto?

I've never seen one and I have a suspicion that it was only ever seen on 300-24s and the other M104-engine cars

Anyone ever had a 5-speed auto 300?

Timeline V3
http://www.w124.co.uk/modelrange.html

Nick Froome
www.w124.co.uk

On the work shop manuals I scanned the applications and mods and only the 104 and 111 engines applied, and they did stress only on the 300- 24 engine.

I can remember when I had my 1990 300TE and came back to the UK in it during 1992, and my sister in law had a 300-24 TE on loan and that had a 5 speed box and was a beautiful car.

I will check the Auto data over the week end and see whats on there.


I have a Oct 1994 S class and 129 price list here.


A 5 speed chargeable option was on the S280 and 320 and not on the 420 and 500. The 5 speed was standard on the 280 limmo. The S class coupes did not have the option and it was not fitted.

On the SL it was a standard fit for the 280 and an option on the 320 at £747 Thats all in 10-1994

See what else i can come up with

 

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More info here including you

http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=18163&highlight=speed+gearbox

This is the post on the 13-06-2005

 

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There is a thread running on Benzworld right now on this issue and I see that you can mod the box so that it starts off in first gear,, just a simple removing a spring.

Another link here says 1991 for the 722.5 box its at the bottom of the page

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cach...ox&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=24&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

The Benzworld link and mod details are here and my post

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1402954-1991-300sl-transmission-gearbox.html

 

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Last update and benzworld say that the 129 has always had the 5 speed over there since 1990

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_R129

And this must go for the 124

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W124

Sorry to keep on posting and some of it is good reading and info