W169 A Class with mysterious noise!

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I bought my 57 plate diesel auto A Class about six months ago and am delighted with it overall. It has not been completely fault free but my local dealer has been pretty efficient in dealing with the one or two minor issues that have cropped up. That said, I have a problem that has them baffled - and that isn't good!!

A short while ago I noticed a high pitched noise that I can best describe as the noise the gadget makes at the dentist when you're having a scale and polish and the water is being vacced out of your mouth!! Now, this noise is either not occuring or is inaudible below 25mph, but, once I'm over 25mph I can hear it - but only from the drivers seat or the passenger seat behind the drivers seat. Strange? I've only just begun!! If anybody is sat in the passenger seat the noise reduces considerably and is often virtually inaudible. I cannot, for the life of me, locate where this noise is coming from and the Mercedes technicians (including the dealers master technician) are unable to locate it, or, and this does make matters very tricky indeed, hear it! The first time I booked it in the Mercedes technician I dealt with whispered (and I mean whispered) that it was more than likely a fault with the CVT transmission as they had had to change quite a few and it may require replacement! This surprised me as I had never read of any major issues with this transmission and I'm still unable to find anything to suggest major problems with this transmission. After that spell at the dealer the gearbox oil was topped up and they were convinced the problem was rectified. I drove it home and, yep, no noise. However, the very next morning, back it came - damn! The second time it went back they wondered if it could be a fuel pump about to pack up but elected to grease all the door seals instead - which didn't make a scrap of difference. I asked the master technician if many faults were experienced with the new A Class and he said no, though he commented on the poor reliability of the earlier previous model. No mention was made of any CVT transmission issues. On a recent holiday I could hear the noise as we drove along the motorway and then it simply stopped - but returned later. It had done that to my knowledge at least once before.

So, I now have a, strange, sometimes intermittent, whooshing noise which is undetectable to my local dealership technicians but is most definitely not a figment of my imagination! Aside of wearing ear plugs for the remainder of my ownership or getting rid of it far, far, sooner than I would really want to I'm at a bit of a loss if MB are unable to sort it.

The next step will be for me to book it in with them for three days for various components to be thoroughly checked but I thought it would be worth a post here on the slim chance that somebody may just have encountered a similar problem and be able to help me steer my local dealerships technicians in the right direction?

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I reckon there is a problem with your fuel tank and pump unit within., ive changed a few for this problem.

If they take down the under shields they will here it resonating through the whole tank, if it is the same problems ive encounted.
 

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If i remember right, i firstly changed the pump on its own which didnt cure it, then put a tank in because something was vibrating inside.
 

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I have had an odd zizz noise on my 57 A class,may be the same, may not. Thought it might be front brake pads rubbing but I am now sure it is related to the A/C . I have found that when the A/C is off the noise comes in intermittently and have assumed that it caused by the pump clutch idling. If I switch the A/C on the noise stops .
You mention that the garage topped up the oil level on the CVT gearbox. Live and learn I thought the CVT box did not have any oil.
 
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I reckon there is a problem with your fuel tank and pump unit within., ive changed a few for this problem.

If they take down the under shields they will here it resonating through the whole tank, if it is the same problems ive encounted.


Thanks for your comments, I'll mention this when it next goes back in. I did get the impression that the dealership is hoping that whatever is occuring will either worsen or fail completely by the time I next book it in as that would help them considerably!! Would the suggestions you've made be audible at idle or stationary and/or would they increase in volume in relation to road speed and then reach a level and simply stay at that level?
 
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I have had an odd zizz noise on my 57 A class,may be the same, may not. Thought it might be front brake pads rubbing but I am now sure it is related to the A/C . I have found that when the A/C is off the noise comes in intermittently and have assumed that it caused by the pump clutch idling. If I switch the A/C on the noise stops .
You mention that the garage topped up the oil level on the CVT gearbox. Live and learn I thought the CVT box did not have any oil.

I have tried absolutely everything I can think of to locate the source of this noise and the aircon/airvents were the first thing I tried upon hearing it - after making sure all the doors and windows were correctly shut. Open/closed on/off - no difference at all:???:
 

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Hi all, now that whe are talking about strange noises... I have one since a week or so. In my opinion it comes from the front end at the passenger side. The strangest thing is that the noise is there when the engine makes stationary 800rpm, when you give a bit gas lets say 850rpm the noise is gone. When I looked under the car I saw a flat belt that is very whobbly when the car makes 800rpm and when it does 850 or more rpm the belt don't whobble anymore and the noise is gone. Any touhgts or for wat this belt is for ?

Thanks in advance, any tips are welcome
 

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I am not a techie but this is the best I can do in describing a fault on a friend's diesel A class. Noise at front. Comes and goes a bit etc. Very noisy at idle -sometimes. Turned out there are 3 pulleys together one of which drives the aircon. The bearings on one had gone and needed replacing. MB contributed under goodwill but can't remember how much.

No idea if this is relevant to the noises being posted. Put it here just in case it helps anyone.
 

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I am not a techie but this is the best I can do in describing a fault on a friend's diesel A class. Noise at front. Comes and goes a bit etc. Very noisy at idle -sometimes. Turned out there are 3 pulleys together one of which drives the aircon. The bearings on one had gone and needed replacing. MB contributed under goodwill but can't remember how much.

No idea if this is relevant to the noises being posted. Put it here just in case it helps anyone.


This could be helpfull to my problem, I will look in to this and keep you all posted.
 

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Hi all, yesterday I went to a friend who own's a garage and he took a look at it. His verdict was that the automatic belt tensioner was broken :(. Now I know what the problem is.... how on earth can I reach this piece there is no way I can get to it :confused:
 

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Hi all, now that whe are talking about strange noises... I have one since a week or so. In my opinion it comes from the front end at the passenger side. The strangest thing is that the noise is there when the engine makes stationary 800rpm, when you give a bit gas lets say 850rpm the noise is gone. When I looked under the car I saw a flat belt that is very whobbly when the car makes 800rpm and when it does 850 or more rpm the belt don't whobble anymore and the noise is gone. Any touhgts or for wat this belt is for ?

Thanks in advance, any tips are welcome

Sounds like it might be connected to what my friend's A class had. This is what I posted: -
"I am not a techie but this is the best I can do in describing a fault on a friend's diesel A class. Noise at front. Comes and goes a bit etc. Very noisy at idle -sometimes. Turned out there are 3 pulleys together one of which drives the aircon. The bearings on one had gone and needed replacing. MB contributed under goodwill but can't remember how much."

Once the bearing goes the belt slackens and the whole assembly of three pulleys can be affected. If you are under guarantee, your dealer can fix. If in fourth year, MB will make a major contribution under 'goodwill' if you have fullMBSH.
 

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Hello , found my problem. It was the " auto free run " ( don't now the exact English word for it ) on the alternator that got stuck. I replaced this part and the noise is gone. It was damn hard part to reach and replace but it's done :D
 


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