W210 E55 Estate

[lawman0189]

Dear All,

Found an 1998 E55 estate I'm interested in, I've checked all over it and found the front discs to be little more than Puppadoms which if purchased will be the first thing I change, got quoted £414 inc VAT from MB for a pair of disc rotors, is this a reasonable price or are there other options that are as good as AMG rotors but a touch cheaper?

The body work is 95% with a small amount of rust on one of the rear wheel arches, This I can sort out after having all sorts of issues with my E240 several years back....everywhere else is clear of that rust...

I'm negotiating a deal on the car and have got the dealer down quite a lot from the asking price and feel there is still some way left to go, but as a former W210 owner and excited at the prospect of owning another one, especially the AMG E55 estate, would be interested to hear from other W210 E55 owners about what they looked for when purchasing??

Regards

Scott

 

[bigasotonuk]

Hi,
According to the EPC an E55, C43, and a CLK55 share the same front discs as the links from the Russian site below show,

C43,
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...332F794887&CT=F&cat=44V&SID=42&SGR=030&SGN=01

E55 (to 06,1999).
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...624722.636&CT=F&cat=45Q&SID=42&SGR=030&SGN=01

CLK55,
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.as...GA=722.636&CT=F&cat=45Y&SID=42&SGR=030&SGN=01

For my C43 i,m buying a pair of these discs in the link below.
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=555150

But according to their application list E55's and CLK55's are not listed, which is strange if indeed they are the same as the C43 which they list.
Get your local MB dealer to confirm that they are the same as a C43 and then measure the discs to see if they match the dimensions given in the listing above and if so give them ago.

 

[television]

Have a talk to your local motor factor like Parts co, they sell Zimmerman disc, and they are OE to MB, I paid £100 for the pair

 

[lawman0189]

£100 for a pair on the front??

 

[television]

£100 for a pair on the front??

Yes mine is not an AMG, but they are the same size, drilled and vented. They had the same numbers as the ones that I took off, mine is the SL 230 500

 

[grayb]

My W209 CLK55 certainly does NOT have the same front brakes as our C43 had... Maybe the W208 CLK55 does?

 

[Parrot of Doom]

£414 for two circular lumps of iron You couldn't make it up!

 

[Dosco]

£414 for two circular lumps of iron You couldn't make it up!

MB can and do

 

[Birdman]

Check if the autobox has had a fluid change within the last 50K miles. It must be done at around that interval even tho' not recommended in the service schedule.

Get original bills to establish whether the big 4year/50K service (and 8 year/100K etc) has been done according to the book.

Check all the electrics - including windows, sunroof - and gadgets work correctly.

Run the aircon cold to see if the refrigerator works. If it needs charging have it done before you buy as the seals may have gone - expensive.

Standard service isn't much different from any W210 except for the amount of engine oil needed. But when you get into plugs (16 about £6 each), filters (air, fuel), discs & pads, tyres (about £250/pair fronts & £300/pair rears) and labour you can get a surprise.

Fixing leaks from the self levelling suspension can be costly so check leakage on all four corners (they all seep, its a case of how quickly). Check suspension reservoir level with engine running to see if its within limits.

Andrew

 

[bigasotonuk]

My W209 CLK55 certainly does NOT have the same front brakes as our C43 had... Maybe the W208 CLK55 does?

If you had looked at the link you would have seen it was the 208 i was quoting not a 209.

 

[lawman0189]

thanks so far for the responses,

Silly question, but where do I check the self levelling suspension fluid level?

 

[Birdman]

The hydraulic reservoir is on the passenger side of the engine compartment near the headlamp - a white plastic bottle sitting beside the far larger screenwash reservoir. It should have a yellow sticker on the screwtop, with the description: Zentralhydrauliköl. Max/Min marks are clearly visible on the side. If its below min that's a warning sign. There will inevitably be some oil seepage around each suspension unit but not excessively so.

When you have the car on the open road check the mirrors, and with the autobox in Sports (not Winter mode) and the selector in Drive, slow down to 5mph, then stamp HARD on the throttle and check that the kickdown operates quickly and crisply - after changing down the engine should then pick up absolutely immediately and upchange firmly with no transmission thump and no engine stumbling when it reaches its 6,000rpm change-point (with the accelerator floored it shouldn't change before it hits the redline). Just a clean upchange and bags of meaty push in the next gear. And the next... and if you don't enjoy the experience immensely this is not the car for you!

 

[grayb]

If you had looked at the link you would have seen it was the 208 i was quoting not a 209.

Sorry! I did look but couldn't see any reference to W208 - lots of part numbers but nothing obvious to me. Must have missed it...

 

[lawman0189]

checked with MB today,

they told me that if the chassis begins with W210074 then they are exactly the same disc from the C43 with chassis ref beginning with W202033, however a call through to the dealer revealed the chassis ref as W210274...

nothing is ever straight forward.....

 

[lawman0189]

Have just checked through the russian website found the brakes for the W210274 and they are the same as the W202033 C43 AMG...same numbers? ...the C43 discs seem to be more readily available online...best get price checking

 

[Birdman]

The W210 E55 AMG has 334mm vented front discs which are 'handed' i.e. you have to order a left and a right disc separately, as you do asymmetrical tyres.

Make sure about your information about this commonality of front discs with the C32, C43, E430 etc as I think you may be on the wrong track.

 

[bigasotonuk]

checked with MB today,

they told me that if the chassis begins with W210074 then they are exactly the same disc from the C43 with chassis ref beginning with W202033, however a call through to the dealer revealed the chassis ref as W210274...

nothing is ever straight forward.....

Hi,
The reason why the two chassis references for the E55 differ is because one of the references is for an estate the other is for the saloon.

 

[television]

Hi,
The reason why the two chassis references for the E55 differ is because one of the references is for an estate the other is for the saloon.

My check shows that the brakes are the same for both saloon and estate for the last of the AMG's

 

[Mat B]

Hi all

sorry to bring up an old thread. But has anyone got a definitive answer on whether the C43 discs are a match?
I have confirmed with mercedes the part number is the same (2104211812OE)
for an:

C43 AMG, 98-00

CLK55 AMG, 01-02

E55 AMG, 99-02

also can anyone confrim the dimensions of an E55 front discs please
(334mm x ??? )

many thanks

Matt

 

[Mat B]

A quick update

after doing research i went ahead and brought some aftermarket C43 brake discs. And the good news is........ i had them fitted to day and they are a perfect fit.
Hope this helps members when they come across it themselves