W210 Estate Rear Seats Help

hoochie

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The Catch To Lower The Rear Seats On My E320 Estate April 200 Model Has Broken Has Anyone Any Idea How I Can Lower The Seat Or Try And Take It Out. Local Mb Garage Want £270 To Have A Look At The Problem And Try And Find Out What Is Wrong. I Can See The Plastic Catch You Lift Up Is Cracked But I Can Not Access The Seat As I Can Not Lower It Funny Thing!!!
Any Help Would Be Appreciated Thanks In Advance
 

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I have been sitting here looking for any info on removal, there is nothing listed for this.
If I were you I would find a small coach works/bodyshop and ask them to have a look, they are used to this kind of thing.

£270 is stupid as that is going to be plus parts,etc.

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hoochie, can't you take a gander at other side of split rear seat back to see how it comes apart, or to dissmantle?

You do have split rear seats right?

My 124 comes apart with philips head screws usually in hidden recesses for such a similar occurance.
 

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PINBALL said:
hoochie, can't you take a gander at other side of split rear seat back to see how it comes apart, or to dissmantle?

You do have split rear seats right?

My 124 comes apart with philips head screws usually in hidden recesses for such a similar occurance.

Can you see any screws when the seats are up, and locked, all of these have spit seats, biggest snag is as far I can see is that they can only be removed from the down posistion.

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Bump....

Just happened to mine, the driver's side catch has failed and I can't see any way of sorting it out. Anyone have any success with this?
 

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Kallisti said:
Bump....

Just happened to mine, the driver's side catch has failed and I can't see any way of sorting it out. Anyone have any success with this?

Do you mean the catch for the back ?

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Yeah, the bit on the rear passenger "single side" seat to fold it forwards. The lever that raises the red button/bar. It's completely disconnected from the mechanism so the lever raises and lowers freely.
 

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Just to add to the list i have exactly the same problem, my large split seat the catch at the top has been snapped off i have no idea how to get the thing appart! HELP!!!!:confused:
 

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hoochie said:
The Catch To Lower The Rear Seats On My E320 Estate April 200 Model Has Broken Has Anyone Any Idea How I Can Lower The Seat Or Try And Take It Out. Local Mb Garage Want £270 To Have A Look At The Problem And Try And Find Out What Is Wrong. I Can See The Plastic Catch You Lift Up Is Cracked But I Can Not Access The Seat As I Can Not Lower It Funny Thing!!!
Any Help Would Be Appreciated Thanks In Advance

Yes it does cost over £200!!! I have a receipt from the previous owner of our E230 estate. The part costs £2.10. The rest is labour. Apparently its a swine to fit, but as with all dealers take it with a pinch of salt!!!
 

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W210 Estate - Mending The Rear Seat Release Mechanism

I had the same problem back in July and resolved it as described below. Hope it helps.

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2001 E class estate. (W210)

n/side rear seat catch (the 2x seat one) broke. When I pulled the lever up nothing. WD40 failed to make any difference.

I guess that the procedure below would also work on the o/side catch too.

Procedure
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Remove all 3x headrests on the rear seats

Drop down o/side rear seat.

On the n/s seat;
lift up the bottom part of the rear seat (as if in preparation for the seat back to fold down on to).

(V.carefully) prise up 4x plastic sleeve inserts that the headrests locate into. I used a large/long flat bladed screwdriver. If the inserts get damaged replacements are available from dealers

(V.carefully) prise up and remove the long plastic capping strip that covers the length of the top of the seat. This is held in place by catches moulded into the underside of the strip so go carefully when you're prising it up. You'll find access slots over a few of the clips to assist in releasing them. Remove the centre seat belt through the slot in the capping strip.

At the extreme edges of the seatback (the bit in the rear load space) there is a small channel into which is tucked the ends of both the carpet on the seatback and the leather edging of the seat covering. Discover this using a small flat bladed screwdriver and ease out the carpet and the leather (The leather is edged with stiff card/plastic which will need to be kept intact to ensure the leather can be refitted in the groove when it comes to reassembly - note how the plastic strip is folded back on itself to keep the tension in the fixing. You should only need to remove the leather from the groove along the top and side of the seatback.

Leaning on the seat to depress the wadding will take the tension away and helps in removing the leather from the groove. This is also a useful tip to remember when reassembling the seat.

Having freed the leather from the retaining groove you should now be able to peel the leather and foam away from the seat back and reveal the lock mechanism at the top right of the seat.

Observe how the mechanism works and what it connects to (or should do)
I had to replace the whole mechanism and it was a bit of a fiddle reconnecting the rod and the cable.

The lever activates 2 lock openers; 1 is a rod mechanism that opens the main lock over the wheel arch the other is a cable mechanism which releases a lock on the hinge at the other side of the seat (in the centre of the car)

Pushing the rod DOWN will release the main lock via another mechanism located lower down on the seatback. Pulling the cable will release the centre lock. When both locks have been released the seat will then go down - if you've got the loadspace cover/net 'roller-blind' assembly then remove this for now. Once down I covered the hasp on the wheel arch with an old rag to prevent the mechanisn relocking inadvertently - you may need to raise the seat back occasionally when mending the mechanism

Remove the lever mechanism by unscrewing the 3(could be 4) retaining screws.

I found that the cable can be easily released from the centre hinge lock by removing the plastic cover trim strip on the exposed vertical side of the seat. The cable is screwed into the mechanism and can be easily released (and reconnected) this will give extra length in the cable which will be needed when reconnecting the other end of the cable to the main, lever mechanism.

Replace/repair and reassemble the lever mechanism.

Re-attach lever mechanism to seat back. CHECK IT WORKS PROPERLY AND ADJUST IF NECESSARY!!!

Reattach cable to centre lock mechanism and replace plastic trim covering.

Carefully, using a small flat bladed screwdriver where necessary, re insert the seat leather edging strip into groove (leaning on the wadding will give slack to the leather and remove the tension)

Re insert carpet edging into groove on seatback .

Replace plactic trim on top of seat back - feeding centre belt through the access slot.

Re insert 4x head rest liner tubes making sure to insert the 2x locking ones correctly in the right-hand of each pair of holes and that all are correctly orientated to fit snugly on the capping strip.

Re insert all 3x headrest.

Re attach rear loadspace cover 'roller-blind' assembly if desired

Raise rear left seat to upright position and fold flat the horizontal section.

Raise right seat into upright position and fold flat horizontal section.

Raise arms in triumph and tell wife you ARE the greatest man that ever walked the planet. Insist on showing all your family, friends, neighbours passing strangers etc the miracle you have just performed.

Feel smug all day and drink lots of beer/wine that evening.

Best of luck - if you follow your nose you can't go far wrong. Let us all know how you get on.


Regards

Will.
 

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Pics to go with WPR's description

OK Chaps I have now fully rebuilt my seat with a new catch, and have taken a series of pics to go with the great description that "WPR" has posted, anyone who would like them just drop me an email and I'll send them to you.
Regards
Stuart :)
 

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hi Stuart, congrats on getting your rear seats fixed. I'd love to get hold of those pics before i set about trying the same with my own at the weekend. I sent you an email earlier in the week but i dont know if you got it.
thanx
 

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OK Chaps I have now fully rebuilt my seat with a new catch, and have taken a series of pics to go with the great description that "WPR" has posted, anyone who would like them just drop me an email and I'll send them to you.
Regards
Stuart :)


Just wanted to make sure there was a public thank you on here for the excellent pics! I'll be tackling it in a couple of weeks and will let you know how I get on.

Cheers again
 

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Pics to go with WPR's description

OK Chaps I have now fully rebuilt my seat with a new catch, and have taken a series of pics to go with the great description that "WPR" has posted, anyone who would like them just drop me an email and I'll send them to you.
Regards
Stuart :)
Hi there. Not sure whether you still have these photos but I am part way through this job and am stuck at the part finding the channel which holds the leather and carpet in. Any photos much appreciated, Cheers
 


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