W213 E63 mystery

[AMGeed]

I've been looking on and off for the last couple of months at W213 E63's and this particular car caught my initial interest. Advertised on eBay as a 30k mile saloon, no modifications mentioned and at a dealer with no previous sales history on eBay. This is the car. Note the registration and asking price. This has been on sale since the beginning of May to my knowledge.
Checking the MOT history, I spotted the mileage at almost 40k, not the advertised 30k. Hmmm.

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Then earlier this week, I spotted this car for sale on the Facebook AMK UK owners classifieds. The owners location is stated as Rotherham. Notice the mileage and modification? It must be some warranty to cover a Stage 2 modification



Zooming in on the registration plate, what do I see? The same plate as the car advertised without modifications, with 30k miles and nearly £5k dearer at a dealer in Nottingham. Now I'm no detective, but I see something amiss.
I have no interest in the car any longer but what do you lot think?

 

[SL63 Mark]

Nice car but Things that leap out for me are E63s numbers on boot lid don't line up, brake discs look too small, I would personally avoid a modified car. Good luck with the search, they are fabulous cars. All that power, and four people can travel in comfort.

 

[AMGeed]

Nice car but Things that leap out for me are E63s numbers on boot lid don't line up, brake discs look too small, I would avoid a modified car.

So would I. Been there, done that. Any future AMG will be bone stock and stay that way for me.

My initial interest was because of the exterior colour but far too many inconsistencies between the adverts and the dark interior.
The E63S decals looks like they were applied by Stevie Wonder

 

[fabes]

Possible the two garages could be linked or work together, Rog.

This can work for more modest cars where people may not set a nationwide search as they would for a specialist car.

That aside, the discrepancies and the fact it's modified would be reason enough to pass, although it does look nice!

One plus to the dealers is that they are at least declaring it's modified. Given we know many are modified (quite a few by members on here and t'other side) how many don't declare it as they know it can limit the interested market.....

 

[DSK]

I’ve not looked into but, on the back of what you say, it’s one to be avoided if it’s been clocked etc.

Sadly this is the problem with buying German cars, everyone has them, everyone wants them, they are capable of hiding and wearing miles well, easy to be clocked etc and are prime targets for being wrong uns.


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[Larkone]

MOT Check
3 January 2023
PASS
Mileage
39,794 miles

 

[AMGeed]

Possible the two garages could be linked or work together, Rog.

This can work for more modest cars where people may not set a nationwide search as they would for a specialist car.

That aside, the discrepancies and the fact it's modified would be reason enough to pass, although it does look nice!

One plus to the dealers is that they are at least declaring it's modified. Given we know many are modified (quite a few by members on here and t'other side) how many don't declare it as they know it can limit the interested market.....

One garage in Nottingham and the FB advert is a private sale in Rotherham? Not sure of any connection Jon.
The dealer makes no mention of it being modified and understates the mileage by at least 15k
I lost interest when I saw the interior was black anyway

 

[fabes]

Hmm, didn't spot that one was on FB - my bad
That would ring huge bells for me.

Actively looking though.....?

 

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[AMGeed]

^ Good find. Even more reason to avoid.
I'm in no hurry anyway.

 

[Conor]

Something else that I find useful is TotalCarCheck .. they often give detail of adverts seen for the reg you type in..

So for the car in question: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/FreeCheck?regno=K3DWO

It appears as though it was on sale in May 2022 with 30k miles.

 

[AMGeed]

Removed

 

[DSK]

At least you’re looking at the red for exterior, just need to make sure it’s got ivory leather. I did see a few this year on sale with that colour combo so it’s just a matter of time before the right one comes along.


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[AMGeed]

^ Yep, Hyacinth Red, Cavansite Blue or Selenite Grey are my preferred exterior colours with either Ivory or Crystal Grey interior.
I'm in no rush, I saw one Hyacinth/Ivory a while back but wasn't actively looking at the time. I have a wedding to pay for next year plus probably the bank of Dad for a mortgage deposit so it can wait.
Plus it still makes me wonder about the big gap in prices between a 16plate 212 at £30k ish and a 17+ plate 213 at £50k.+ It's a big mark up.

 

[SL63 Mark]

Did the W213 receive a facelift for 2017 ?

I know the R231 had a facelift in 2017, which means there can be a noticeable price jump for later cars.

 

[Blobcat]

Did the W213 receive a facelift for 2017 ?

I know the R231 had a facelift in 2017, which means there can be a noticeable price jump for later cars.

Not a facelift - a model change from W212 to W213 - Whilst you could get W213's in 2016 (I had one) the W213 E63's came out in 2017 in 4.0 twin turbo guise - The W212 was either 6.2 ltr (2011-2013) then 5.5ltr to 2016 when it was replaced with the W213

 

[Blobcat]

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[Conor]

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Nice... Aidan has good taste

 

[AMGeed]

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Nice. But already sold. It was more than I'd want to pay anyway. But great colour scheme.