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Hello,

I went to replace my tyres, and found out that my wheel nut was missing. Is there an easy way of getting a replacment wheel nut or just changing the tyres? Or do I have to contact Mercedes. If anybody has had to order one before, how much does it normall cost, and how quickly can you get one.

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Hi,
A wheel specialist should be able to sort you a new one out, just take one of the others out as a pattern for it.
MB dealers would have stock of such an Item (though i,m sure they could get one next day if they did,nt), and IIRC there about £3-4 each.
 

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are we talking about an ordinary nut though or the adaptor for the locking wheelnut is missing?
 
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I was just told the wheel nut was missing, because of that they could not take the wheel off to change the tyres.

I don't really know what an ordinary nut is and the adapter, all I know is that I need to get myself a wheel nut to have the tyres changes.

What is IIRC?

Is that £3/4 at Mercedes?
 

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It sounds like the locking nut to me---servicing cars every day its always a search to find them unless the owner leaves it out ?--I bet its in the car somewhere--glove box -toolkit roll -in boot somewhere-we find them in ash trays --sometimes in thier own little plastic case ?
 

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£3/4 is an approx price per wheelnut from mercedes. an ordinary nut is a standard hexagon shape. a locking wheelnut is a different shape (often round) with an adaptor to allow removal with a normal wheelbrace. i think that you could be missing this adapter as if it was just a normal nut missing, theres no reason why your tyre place shouldnt have been able to remove your wheels and change your tyres!
 
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I checked everywhere in the car. So did they. It's not there.

They said they would be able to remove the wheel for an additional ten pound. However, it seemed to me that they could damage things in the process.
 

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Hello,

If you have locking wheel nuts and the key is missing as would appear to be the case,it also means that if you have a puncture,the person who comes to sort it out for you will also not be able to remove the wheel and you will be stranded.
You may then,worst case scenario,be faced with a bill for the full lift of your vehicle onto a lorry and its transport to a safe place.
Even at MB prices,you will then have paid out enough to cover several dozen keys and still have the problem.

I would recommend a visit ASAP to a Mercedes dealer in an effort to source the correct key for the locking wheel nuts.
Each wheel will have one of these nuts fitted,designed primarily to prevent the theft of your wheels.

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OK i4, There are 4 locking nuts (one on each wheel)--You have 2 options get them to remove them and replace them with normal bolts--or go to the dealers and try and order a matching special nut to replace the lost one ?
I would get a new kit with new bolts and locking nut remover in if you are concerned about the wheels been stolen --most auto shops have them ?
 

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Dealers often have lots of keys knocking around so may well be able to match to your bolts and remove them. Not sure if they can source sa new key though but at least it will be a damage free method of removing them.

New sets from the dealers will be £30-£40ish from memory. You should be able to source them elsewhere though. They're made by McGuard and standard fit on most cars these days. Just make sure you have the right ones for your car. The dealer lost one of my bolts and the replacement set they gave me a few weeks later (when I went to replace the tyres and discovered it missing) turned out to be for a B class.They come in all shapes and sizes.
 

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Are you saying, I will need 4 keys for my four wheels?

No,one locking nut for each wheel,ie four in total and one key to fit them all.

Unless you feel that theft is an issue,perhaps it would be better to have someone remove the existing locking wheel nuts for you and replace them with four standard wheel nuts.
The theft protection will have gone, but you will always be able to remove the wheels for punctures or replacement tyres.
Of course,you will also require a jack and a wheelbrace,did either of these turn up during your search for the wheel nut key?
An inflated spare tyre in roadworthy conditon is also useful.

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There where a good idea a few years ago when alloy wheels were rare and expensive-nowadays you dont really need them unlless you are going to leave your car for long periods in a bad area?
 
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All I need is the locking nut keys. I have the locking nuts on the wheel.

I suppose I can only get the key from Mercedes Service Centre? If anyone knows places in London where I can get the keys made fairly quickly at a reasonable price, please let me know. I have to try and get a key by next Thursday as I am going on a long road trip.
 

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All I need is the locking nut keys. I have the locking nuts on the wheel.

I suppose I can only get the key from Mercedes Service Centre? If anyone knows places in London where I can get the keys made fairly quickly at a reasonable price, please let me know. I have to try and get a key by next Thursday as I am going on a long road trip.

It seems the keys are £26 from a MB dealer.
If you take the car there,they should have a range of keys which they can use to find the correct one for your car.

However,I would emphasise, locking wheel nuts are of much less value than they used to be and of no value at all if the key is kept in the boot with the jack,wheelbrace and spare tyre.

I doubt you would be prepared to carry the key around with you and would recommend that you obtain four standard wheelnuts/studs,avail yourself of your tyre fitter's offer of removing them for £10 and throw them away.
You could also,finally, be able to have your new tyres at the same time.

Regards,
Nick.
 
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I bought a lock nut key and have had the tyres changed.

On a seperate note, having had a lot of bad experiences with garages, I had to leave for 5 mins (max) while one of the tyres was being changed. Could they, nick/swap brake pads or discs in that time? Or am I being paranoid.

Thanks to all that replied and helping me to get this problem solved.

Just one more thing, if you are doing a long road trip, say a thousand miles or more, what are the things that you would check and do before heading out?
 

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I bought a lock nut key and have had the tyres changed.

On a seperate note, having had a lot of bad experiences with garages, I had to leave for 5 mins (max) while one of the tyres was being changed. Could they, nick/swap brake pads or discs in that time? Or am I being paranoid.

Thanks to all that replied and helping me to get this problem solved.

Just one more thing, if you are doing a long road trip, say a thousand miles or more, what are the things that you would check and do before heading out?
I would check the following;

Tyre pressures & tyres
Screen Wash
Wipers
Sufficient Fuel in tank
Clean the car especially the windscreen inside and out
Depending upon when it was last serviced brake pads maybe or if it is due a service soon perhaps get it done ahead of the trip.

I just did a ~1,800 mile trip in the Caravelle and just cleaned it and checked the tyre pressures. I rarely check anything on my E320 before a 5-600 mile trip.
 

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Could they, nick/swap brake pads or discs in that time? Or am I being paranoid.

No and Yes.

Enjoy your journey and have a safe one.

Regards,
Nick
 

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