And They Call Electric Cars Green?

[LostKiwi]

can only speak from personal experience after owning my tesla model 3 performance since march this year, we find it cheaper than our equivilant e350 and bmw m135. we only charge at home at 29p a kw so for us its cheap cheap, there is no servicing and currently no road tax, its faster than anything i have ever driven , i wouldnt have a modern merc/bmw again. . only my personal view of course.

You could probably drop that cost per kWh significantly if you aren't using an EV tariff.
I seem to recall Octopus were doing EV tariff at around 16p.

 

[bladecrazy]

thats correct lk, thats our next move.

 

[Alastairp]

MSN

 

[s5tuart]

VW are scaling back production of electric vehicles. One plant in Germany has been given and extra weeks summer leave and contracts won't be renewed when they get back.
The depreciation alone seems hideous and people are just not buying them

 

[mioba]

the debate threads about electric cars being green or not is one of those subjects that will keep popping up. Deffo one for a chat after/during a few pints.

 

[ajlsl600]

So with hydrogen I can forsee new housing estates having their own filling stations, storage and maybe even production

 

[oigle]

So with hydrogen I can forsee new housing estates having their own filling stations, storage and maybe even production

Good luck with that....

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

The transition to green transport is ill thought out in the business sector my daughter is currently through tax implications being forced into a Plug-in Hybrid petrol car and in all likelihood 80% of her travelling time will be spent using the petrol engine which is insane - our rule makers really don’t know what they are doing unfortunately.

 

[Big Cheese]

There is also no viable recycling of old lithium batteries in this country at the moment.
And doesn't look near to being any time soon.

 

[bembo449]

can only speak from personal experience after owning my tesla model 3 performance since march this year, we find it cheaper than our equivilant e350 and bmw m135. we only charge at home at 29p a kw so for us its cheap cheap, there is no servicing and currently no road tax, its faster than anything i have ever driven , i wouldnt have a modern merc/bmw again. . only my personal view of course.

but also ugly as sin . . . . . . as a true car lover i dont think i could ever bring myself to drive a tesla let alone actually buy one

 

[bembo449]

There is also no viable recycling of old lithium batteries in this country at the moment.
And doesn't look near to being any time soon.

which means increased mining for the materials to make more batteries , eco friendly ??

 

[ajlsl600]

Over twice as many needed compared to charging a battery.

How much to recycle and replace car batts travelling a cross the oceans. and whose beach are we dumping them on.

 

[ajlsl600]

So will hydrogen! We won't recognise the situation in ten yrs. Unless they make duracell batteries v cheap they are a temp thing not to mention, how much battery is used just to lug the weight of it about??

 

[bladecrazy]

ugly?spose thats your view, we like it and love its performance, you pays your money etc.

 

[ajlsl600]

Xactly. Wot works for u, won't work for me. As u say all to their own.

 

[lewyboy]

I just like cars.

 

[KennyN]

which means increased mining for the materials to make more batteries , eco friendly ??

At least it will keep the women and children in the Congo in employment (slave labour) for a while yet , bet the Green brigade are so proud. Here is what Elon has to say about the (non) ethically sourced materials for his cars power plants.

To his credit , at least he is honest.

K

 

[lewyboy]

At least it will keep the women and children in the Congo in employment (slave labour) for a while yet , bet the Green brigade are so proud. Here is what Elon has to say about the (non) ethically sourced materials for his cars power plants.

To his credit , at least he is honest.

K

Must be fake.

 

[Blobcat]

Must be fake.

Two different videos nailed together

 

[LostKiwi]

How much to recycle and replace car batts travelling a cross the oceans. and whose beach are we dumping them on.

You could ask the same question of all the dumped extra solar panels and windmill blades.