Dealership repairs/servicing experiences with an E200-124

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I am presently running a 1995 E200-124 saloon and here are some of my (MB dealer) servicing experiences.

LABOUR COSTS

When I bought the car 7 years ago, my dealer was charging around £58.00 per hour. This dealer has now been absorbed into a countywide dealership in the past few years and labour rates have shot up to over £90.00 per hour. Yes, there is a service discount for older Mercedes, circa 10%, although that hardly compensates for the price hikes.

DEALERSHIP REPAIRS/SERVICING PROBLEMS

1. Lack of quality control, e.g. car left with a serious brake fluid leak after servicing.

2. Botched repair. During wiring checks, the centre console door mirrors switch was broken by a technician and repaired when the standard remedy is to replace the unit. Presumably, this was done to save money. Result, it broke again and had to be replaced.

3. Carelessness, e.g. the bodywork was damaged whilst in the care of the dealership, viz. front offside wing dented (see photograph).

4. Sloppy workmanship, e.g. internal cabin fittings incorrectly replaced, viz. front footwell panels/carpet.

5. General lack of post-service cleanliness, e.g. wood trims covered in greasy finger marks.

Bear in mind, however, that this sort of thing can happen anywhere. For example, I once asked an Audi dealer to carry out a radiator pressure test on an Audi 80 and, after checking the radiator, they forgot to refill it! Fortunately, the engine temperature gauge was working properly.

Also, there is a case for persisting with the same dealer, even if they have annoyed you in the past. This was brought home to me when I suffered my one and only serious problem, an SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) failure. I soon discovered that it is virtually impossible to trace the precise location of the fault using standard MB diagnostic software. Moreover, it is equally difficult just to obtain an estimate for the cost of the work involved. Fortunately, my local dealer took on the task for a fixed price, as well as supplying me with a courtesy car for the duration. Tracing the fault took far longer than envisaged, some two weeks, but it didn't cost me an extra penny. It still wasn't cheap but, without the dealer's willingness to undertake the work for a fixed price, it could have been a lot worse.

Incidentally, all of the major servicing problems described above were eventually remedied by the dealer and I was compensated for any inconvenience.

Have I used an independent Mercedes specialist for servicing? Yes, I have occasionally, but they couldn't fix the SRS problem.

One final word based purely on my own experiences; do not rely on getting any assistance from Mercedes-Benz U.K. Customer Services. In terms of response times and helpfulness, I found them to be absolutely useless.
 
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Once I was in a really cheap chinese restaurant in London's West End and found the service non-existant and bordering on downright rude. The food was OK, but I complained to the manager about having to wait 30 minutes for it, and the rude staff.

He snapped back at me and my colleagues:

'You want Service! And cheap food! Then get out and go to McDonalds!!'

Fair point. You get what you pay for.

So, you want good service, and a car that is built properly, by a company who really values your business and responds to valid complaints?

Then go to Lexus. They are taking up all those disgruntled M-B owners....
 
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The perfect car has yet to be built

ddentrec said:
So, you want good service, and a car that is built properly, by a company who really values your business and responds to valid complaints?

Then go to Lexus. They are taking up all those disgruntled M-B owners....

For people who probably wouldn't agree with your point of view, see http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/lexus.html
 

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Echo200: you are right. But as your title says ?the perfect car has yet to be built?. Lexus are not perfect. In fact no manufacturer is perfect and there are always disgruntled owners whatever the vehicle brand. But Lexus? management continually strive to do a better job and look after their customers. After all, they are the underdog-and they know it. But Mercedes-Benz rest on their brand image and seem to do little else. They are mediocre in terms of quality. The Japanese are simply exploiting that and they are fanatical about quality?it is what sells their cars. But I recently took delivery of a brand new Mercedes that had such obvious serious manufacturing defects that DCUK flew an engineer over from Sindelfingen to inspect it. I cannot say anymore?I signed a non-disclosure agreement with MBs solicitors and settled out of court.
 
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Do they really care?

ddentrec/

I think that the point you made about Mercedes-Benz 'resting on their laurels' hits the nail on the head.

I was appalled by the reaction from Mercedes-Benz Customer Services when I had my SRS problem. They made me feel like a second-class citizen for driving a (then) nine year old car. Basically, they just didn't want to know. This was unbelievably shortsighted for at least two reasons that I can think of, viz.

1. The car I am driving today (E200-124) represents an excellent advertisement for owning a Mercedes, advertising which, incidentally, doesn't cost MB a penny.

2. Today's E200-124 owner can be tomorrow's new Mercedes car customer. This is actually true in my case, because I have a new C200K on order - and what a mess the dealer has made of that order! (See thread 'Don't get mad, get even').

If I were in a position to do so, I would appoint a Mercedes-Benz Forums Administrator, someone who was dedicated to collating and fielding issues raised on forums like this (I'll do it, I need the work!). Clearly, from what I hear and read, the normal dealership/Customer Services channels are not working.
 

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Put it this way: when I bought my new mercedes was I pleased as punch that I had bought into the most reknowned brands and quality cars in the world?

Ans: Yes.

How long did that feeling last:

Ans: 3 days.

What is my feeling now of DCUK 'customer services' and the M-B brand:

Ans: I was duped; in fact conned would not be too strong a word. M-B pulled off triumph of marketing over common sense.

Would I buy another:

Ans: Nope: but show me a 'quality survey' (car and customer service) with M-B in the top 5 and I may have a rethink.

Will DCUK admit to W203 C-Class customers that they did not apply rust treatments to doors in order to save money during production???

Ans: What do you think?
 


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