Electric Vehicles

[star]

It will get better, just like mobile phone batteries, however it’s not there yet, so I won’t invest until it’s better.

 

[joderest]

I did notice that some EV's have a lease contract on the batteries, so you own the car, but have to lease the batteries (i think thats how it worked) so if they depleted, you could get new ones. Think i saw it was £200 a year, which wipes out the savings on road tax.

Please correct me if i am wrong

 

[LostKiwi]

I did notice that some EV's have a lease contract on the batteries, so you own the car, but have to lease the batteries (i think thats how it worked) so if they depleted, you could get new ones. Think i saw it was £200 a year, which wipes out the savings on road tax.

Please correct me if i am wrong

Yes Renault do that.
In some ways it makes sense.

 

[Taffy7hfa]

Battery power tools are a boon in lots of construction applications and have improved greatly over the last 10 years, but they are still only suitable for short duration, occasional or light work, It's not a total solution, this is the same problem EV's have. There is also the issue of battery life, I have just had to replace my 2 year old I phone as it was flat by lunchtime pretty much every day despite being on charge for 10 hours every night.

 

[Blobcat]

Battery power tools are a boon in lots of construction applications and have improved greatly over the last 10 years, but they are still only suitable for short duration, occasional or light work, It's not a total solution, this is the same problem EV's have. There is also the issue of battery life, I have just had to replace my 2 year old I phone as it was flat by lunchtime pretty much every day despite being on charge for 10 hours every night.

That’s the problem… charging too much…

EV’s batteries can also suffer if constantly fast charged

 

[Taffy7hfa]

That’s the problem… charging too much…

EV’s batteries can also suffer if constantly fast charged

Oh never knew that, I thought the longer you have them on charge the better.

 

[Blobcat]

Oh never knew that, I thought the longer you have them on charge the better.

The software was updated to match your regular charging so they don’t overcharge. Still does it though (so they can sell you a new phone…)

 

[Taffy7hfa]

In the immortal words of Private Frazer, we are all doomed.

 

[A.J.]

Oh never knew that, I thought the longer you have them on charge the better.

They used to say It does a battery good to run it flat occasionally and recharge from virtually flat. However modern car electrics won’t tolerate that any more

 

[davidsl500]

Shoppers trapped in car park for 3 hours after Tesla runs out of battery at exit

Drivers caught in the traffic jam were furious about the three-hour delay after the electric-powered car blocked the multi-storey when it lost power on the ramp

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Blobcat]

Shoppers trapped in car park for 3 hours after Tesla runs out of battery at exit

Drivers caught in the traffic jam were furious about the three-hour delay after the electric-powered car blocked the multi-storey when it lost power on the ramp

www.mirror.co.uk

You must have been stuck in the queue…. See post 25

 

[oigle]

I did notice that some EV's have a lease contract on the batteries, so you own the car, but have to lease the batteries (i think thats how it worked) so if they depleted, you could get new ones. Think i saw it was £200 a year, which wipes out the savings on road tax.

Please correct me if i am wrong

Yes, but car would be considerably cheaper to the tune of maybe $8-10K. Makes them much more affordable.

 

[davidsl500]

You must have been stuck in the queue…. See post 25

I knew I'd seen it somewhere before..

 

[bembo449]

For those who are anti EV how long ago was it that battery drills were a toy and you had to have a mains one to do any work.
I doubt there is anyone on here who doesn't do 90% of their DIY with battery power tools these days.
Likewise rattle guns. There are more than a few of us with battery rattle guns who use them for undoing wheel nuts and only 5 years ago that would have been unthinkable.

You make a good point LK but this is a whole transport solution that requires an enormous amount of electricity to power , something this country does not have , we already buy it from europe , there are still places in our country with no broadband so how do they realistically think we can achieve full electrification anytime soon ? They would have to make it against the law for me to even consider an EV , I detest the things and thats not for changing

 

[Blobcat]

This morning non-news story - by 2030 when you can no longer buy a new ICE car they're advising that there won't be enough trained mechanics to maintain EV's... it's 9 year time, the techs are still in primary school FFS

Also, apart from brake pads and fluid and topping up the windscreen washer fluid, exactly what else are they going to be servicing?

 

[LostKiwi]

Absolutely.
EVs are simple things compared to ICE. Should be a damned site less troublesome than Euro 6 diesels that's for sure.

 

[M80]

the techs are still in primary school FFS

EVs are simple things compared to ICE.

Is this going to be a need rather than an incidental benefit?

"I've topped the batteries with Brawndo, now the puter says put 2 litres in each tire, but they're run flats so that's dumb."

 

[star]

Mechanically their simple, electronically their a nightmare.

 

[EmilysDad]

Tech's of all flavours struggle with the electrickery on cars now ..... when it's all electric, the car will sit for months in a dealership while heads of depts scratch their heads.
Who was it here that had problem after problem with their electric E Class that nobody seemed to be able to resolve?

 

[A.J.]

Tech's of all flavours struggle with the electrickery on cars now ..... when it's all electric, the car will sit for months in a dealership while heads of depts scratch their heads.
Who was it here that had problem after problem with their electric E Class that nobody seemed to be able to resolve?

My Son in Law had endless Electrical problems with his XF. The dealership in Norwich struggled with it for almost a year without success. My SIL eventually became totally depressed with it. In the end Jaguar bought it back from him.

The only up side was that Warren got to try pretty much the whole range of Jaguars during that time as relief vehicles. He has since, for the last three years, owned an MB.