Fuel really makes a difference

[Wighty]

Any JASO FB which is mineral low ash .
Screw Fix - No nonsense
Comma
Carlube

I buy in 5L now.

I do 40ml of 2-EHN then the rest 2 Stroke, the mix easily added with old Redex 250ml bottles .

Cheers buddy , I'm on the carlube at the moment , I'll try and up my game to 5L !

 

[EmilysDad]

In the '90s I had company cars which we changed at 40,000 miles...because they were done.

Cars were usually considered scrap if they 'went round the clock' at just 99 999 miles .... my last 3 Vauxhalls had around 180 000 miles on them when they were sold on.

 

[ajlsl600]

as in out of the ground was where i was coming from.

I could take you to the industrial area of Qatar and show you a dozen companies refineries side by side doing their own refining.........

 

[Frontstep]

We only have 6 refineries that number tells a lot.

 

[Jim2]

Any JASO FB which is mineral low ash .
Screw Fix - No nonsense
Comma
Carlube

I buy in 5L now.

I do 40ml of 2-EHN then the rest 2 Stroke, the mix easily added with old Redex 250ml bottles .

Just to get this right........ it's 40ml of 2 EHN, plus 210 ML, 2T so the total should be 250 Ml ? And add this into how many Ltrs in the tank?
I used to put 400 ML 2T into my A6 1.9 TDI when I filled it up...usually it would take 50-60 Ltrs ( tank was 80 Ltrs capacity )
So approx 200 ML / 30 Ltrs. Would this be about the right mix /% )

 

[Wighty]

Just to get this right........ it's 40ml of 2 EHN, plus 210 ML, 2T so the total should be 250 Ml ? And add this into how many Ltrs in the tank?
I used to put 400 ML 2T into my A6 1.9 TDI when I filled it up...usually it would take 50-60 Ltrs ( tank was 80 Ltrs capacity )
So approx 200 ML / 30 Ltrs. Would this be about the right mix /% )

I use a mix of about 75ml of an Archoil 2-ehn/lubricant , and about 125ml of 2T to a full tank in the E class

 

[AMGeed]

I ran the E55 on unleaded from Tesco. It went beautifully and no mention inside the fuel filler about using super unleaded.
The E63 Biturbo states use 98 RoN, so that is what its getting.
Tesco Momentum or Shell V-Power if Tesco's aren't nearby.

If a car states to use a certain grade, why not use it?

 

[Dean Fletcher]

There has been a few mentions in this thread that good old sainsburys seems to be decent tackle. I can definitely see a difference in fuel economy and performance. Seems to be one of the best fuels about for a decent price. I did fill the car up months ago for weeks using only the super expensive diesel from shell and didn't see these results.

 

[Gazwould]

Just to get this right........ it's 40ml of 2 EHN, plus 210 ML, 2T so the total should be 250 Ml ? And add this into how many Ltrs in the tank?
I used to put 400 ML 2T into my A6 1.9 TDI when I filled it up...usually it would take 50-60 Ltrs ( tank was 80 Ltrs capacity )
So approx 200 ML / 30 Ltrs. Would this be about the right mix /% )

That's a generous dose Jim , I've still my reliable 1.9 PD .

The Swedes have been doing it for 30 + years .

Recommended dilution .


10 Litre Diesel ---> 50 Ml.
20 Litre Diesel ---> 100 Ml
30 Litre Diesel ---> 150 Ml.
40 Litre Diesel ---> 200 Ml.
50 Litre Diesel ---> 250 Ml.
60 Litre Diesel ---> 300 Ml.
70 Litre Diesel ---> 350 Ml.
80 Litre Diesel ---> 400 Ml.
90 Litre Diesel ---> 450 Ml.
100 Litre Diesel ---> 500 Ml.

 

[Dean Fletcher]

That's a generous dose Jim , I've still my reliable 1.9 PD .

The Swedes have been doing it for 30 + years .

Recommended dilution .


10 Litre Diesel ---> 50 Ml.
20 Litre Diesel ---> 100 Ml
30 Litre Diesel ---> 150 Ml.
40 Litre Diesel ---> 200 Ml.
50 Litre Diesel ---> 250 Ml.
60 Litre Diesel ---> 300 Ml.
70 Litre Diesel ---> 350 Ml.
80 Litre Diesel ---> 400 Ml.
90 Litre Diesel ---> 450 Ml.
100 Litre Diesel ---> 500 Ml.

If a car never had it is it worth starting using it.

 

[LostKiwi]

I don't get why people feel the need to second guess the manufacturers and chemists and make their own homebrew mixes for fuel.
Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.oilspecifications.org/a...t-oil-to-diesel-fuel-a-good-or-a-bad-idea.php

 

[Gazwould]

Been doing it for 5 years now , the smoke opacity results speak for themselves , and noticible less cold diesel knock in the PD.

You'll always get scepticism with these types of threads .

As for the 2-EHN , it's a bonified Cetane booster.

 

[LostKiwi]

Been doing it for 5 years now , the smoke opacity results speak for themselves , and noticible less cold diesel knock in the PD.

You'll always get scepticism with these types of threads .

As for the 2-EHN , it's a bonified Cetane booster.

And have you a control so you can rule out other influences?
If you don't do these tests properly they have all the validity of "some bloke on the internet says..."
Here is a properly conducted test from South Africa:
https://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-oil-in-diesel-technical-study.php

 

[gassed up]

i never really considered fuel supplier as an fuel economy issue my eyes have been opened , as fuel essentially comes from the same place its got to be the additives . i remember in kenya where due to shortages some refiners despatched oils without some of the additives that made it the lube described in its spec, could uk operators be at this as well..

Earlier in the thread I made the point that fuel doesn't essentially come from the same place, additives on the other hand who knows

 

[Gazwould]

And have you a control so you can rule out other influences?
If you don't do these tests properly they have all the validity of "some bloke on the internet says..."
Here is a properly conducted test from South Africa:
https://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-oil-in-diesel-technical-study.php

That's not the right base oil !!

 

[Jim2]

I don't get why people feel the need to second guess the manufacturers and chemists and make their own homebrew mixes for fuel.
Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.oilspecifications.org/a...t-oil-to-diesel-fuel-a-good-or-a-bad-idea.php

Well, my own personal experience was with the A6,,, it started going into limp mode. Just often enough to cause a niggle in my mind whenever starting a trip. So I spoke to one or two other 1.9 tdi owners, and they recommended the 2T treatment.....if it worked, fine, if not, then investigate further. So tried the 2T. The car never went into limp mode again.. Now maybe it was just co-incidence, but maybe not, and the 2T solved the problem? I don't really know one way or the other, I did a little bit of investigation into 2T, and it seem's that one of it's property's is keeping the cylinder port's in 2 stroke engines from clogging up, and thereby altering the timing. So maybe, this is what it does too in 4 stroke engines? Cleans or prevents coking, and adds another layer of lubrication?

 

[LostKiwi]

That's not the right base oil !!

The point remains, messing with the fuel formulation can create issues. Proper testing in a lab is the only valid measure of efficacy of adding other agents into the standard fuel our cars were designed for.

 

[LostKiwi]

Well, my own personal experience was with the A6,,, it started going into limp mode. Just often enough to cause a niggle in my mind whenever starting a trip. So I spoke to one or two other 1.9 tdi owners, and they recommended the 2T treatment.....if it worked, fine, if not, then investigate further. So tried the 2T. The car never went into limp mode again.. Now maybe it was just co-incidence, but maybe not, and the 2T solved the problem? I don't really know one way or the other, I did a little bit of investigation into 2T, and it seem's that one of it's property's is keeping the cylinder port's from clogging up, and thereby altering the timing. So maybe, this is what it does too in 4 stroke engines? Cleans or prevents coking, and adds another layer of lubrication?

Without proper test results any such conclusions are supposition.

 

[gassed up]

I remember reading at letter in one of my Dad's ancient Practical Motorists from the 60s. The gist of the letter was that the sender had de-coked his car at 30 000 miles and done this & that and had he missed anything.
The reply was that he'd done everything that could be expected of him & that his car should now be good for another 30 000 miles!

When I was a younger man, a much much younger man, I owned a 1958 Standard 8 that still had its original owners handbook. Amongst the advice on offer was a schematic for rotating the tyres to even out tyre wear and also instructions on how to remove the cylinder head for a decoke at 30,000 miles. Bear in mind how primitive oils and mass produced engineering was then. If you bought a brand new Rover P4 in the late 50's then you expected oil consumption of 100 miles per pint.

 

[Gazwould]

Without proper test results any such conclusions are supposition.

So you are calling the MOT smoke opacity test inaccurate .