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LED vs HID

Discussion in 'Electrics, Vacuum, Ignition and ECU' started by SquabzZz, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. SquabzZz

    SquabzZz Senior Member

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    Hey people after sorting out my rear reg led (1 faulty led replacement is on its way) I have decided to put front LED side lights so will be ordering them soon!

    And on eBay I noticed there are LED lights for the headlamp and fog but will these cause a error on the onboard computer because I don't think they have resistors on them ?..

    I would like to install HID's for the headlight and fog but can't find a decent how to guide anywhere plus I don't like the idea of drilling a whole in my headlamp :( plus I wouldn't know which make to go for

    So what's everyone doing on here
     
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    Just put them in my S500. Bought canbus error free but guess what. I get error on dash but just Reset it every time. Not too much of an issue and easier than sending back. Look much better and don't have the yellow glow anymore. Put them in my door entry and interior too....no more yellow for my 2000 year car. Too many online to choose from.
     
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    If your car does not have HID already I wouldn't bother. You will have to have headlight washers (which you may have) and self leveling (which you wont have).
     
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    As above I wouldn't bother with hids unless already fitted but the sidelights and fog done in leds are a nice touch. I've recently done mine and I am delighted with the results.
     
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    Which fog lamps did you use as u don't want any errors (could I have a link to them please ?) :Oops:
     
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    I used a set of "cree" bulbs which were supposedly error free but I had to fit a resistor as well to get them working properly. There are specific pre wired resistors which are plug and play.
     
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    Contact member...Killerhertz.
     
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    Having trouble finding where to send private messages lol :Oops:
     
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    Ah...yes...you can't yet...until you have 30 posts.
     
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    Well I have orderd my front side lights LED no error ones :)

    The ClC does use the 501 bulbs don't they ?


    Killerhertz if you can see this how much do you want for the front foggies and are they error free ?
     
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    LED headlights will be useless and definitely illegal. Avoid LED bulb replacements for the main bulbs.

    Cars that have real LED headlights (Audi, Lexus) have carefully-designed bespoke optics, not an eBay-sourced H1 bulb replacement.
     
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    Ill be using LED in my front side lights (waiting delivery) LED on my reg lamps (on car) LED in my front foggies (still deciding which 1 to get)

    The headlamps im not to sure what to go for ?

    What can I use for my headlamps I don't like the idea of drilling a hole for HID's hmmmmmm
     
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    Xenon = HID (usually).
     
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    Philips Extreme or Osram Night Breaker halogen bulbs.
     
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    Would a LED headlight bulb have a legal pattern plus would it ruin anything on the car ? Really want them lol
     
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    No, and probably not.

    You will not find an LED bulb replacement that puts out enough light. LEDs need to run cool (sub 70°C, usually): at the light levels needed for headlamp duty, the LED module(s) would be dissipating somewhere around 10-30W. It isn't possible to lose that amount of heat in a bulb-sized package without running at too high a temperature.

    As I said, OEM LED headlights (Audi R8, Lexus LS600h etc) are bespoke units with a lot of heatsinking and often active cooling (fans).

    On top of that, the Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 is quite clear that headlamp assemblies type-approved to run approved filament bulbs may only use such bulbs. By this rule, HID kits are also illegal, although many get away with running them if they keep the beam pattern under control.

    Seriously, stop thinking about LED headlamps. It's not legal or possible to use LED versions of standard halogen bulbs on the public road.
     
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    Philips extreme it is ill leave the led for sidelight and fog light
     
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    Good plan. Don't forget it's also illegal to use front fogs except in seriously-reduced visibility (HC 226 & 236) ;) .
     
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    I put error free LED sidelights on my BMW, guess what, I get sidelight failure error, so don't believe what these companies say :(
     

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