Mercedes Direct quality standards?

caterhamseven

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Apologies for the long essay, but thanks for reading.

I notice that unlike the Mercedes US website, Mercedes GB don’t actually provide a specific definition or checklist of what criteria a used car has to meet in order to attain the Mercedes Approved status. I make the point because my first venture into used, let alone Approved used Mercedes is not what I expected. Let me explain…

Having seen on the net a dark green, 1981 X-reg Approved e200k avantgarde estate with 65,000 miles at Merc Direct Birmingham for £7999; I discussed price, got a £999 discount and paid my deposit over the phone on 5 Feb. The Salesman said the car would be ready in a couple of days and assured “everything would be right” on the car and he would call when it was ready for me to see.

He kindly phoned to say “… a small delay…” as the bonnet had few chips that had gone rusty and had to be painted. Then it needed an exhaust…then brakes. I was pleased as the vehicle conditioning seemed thorough. I had an opportunity to go up to Birmingham on 10 Feb, so naturally called in to see how things were going. The car was on ramps in the workshop and taking a look round I was told the just the alloys needed refurbishing before delivery.

The parts order/job sheet lying on the floor revealed some £2800 of equipment had been ordered, (which made me very happy), but indicated the tailgate was rusty and had been painted…Why wasn’t I told about that??

Condition wise, the car lay there with new discs fitted and the bonnet clearly painted. Looking at the paint job at the front, there was dirt in the paint, massive overspray to the wheel arch liner and they had blended into the doors very roughly. ‘It will mop out” was the positive reply. Under the bonnet the engine bay was not clean and full of dead leaves. The wing bolts and bonnet bolts had been removed at some point with the wrong sized socket and so were burred with paint missing. Accident repair? Inside the car, the speedo housing was out and at the back; the tailgate needed its badges refitting. I was assured the steam clean, bolts touched in, wheels refurbished, body mop and polish etc would all be done.

After another delay because it needed a new speedo the car was finally delivered on 15 Feb. Unfortunately the condition was not as promised and I sent it straight back with their driver. The front paint job had not been mopped and the overspray on doors etc was still there. The alloys had been painted with a silver aerosol and just covered the corrosion bubbles. The roof had two rust blusters bang in the middle and a nice dent in the leading edge above the screen. The offside front brake disc also still showed the grey paint finish because one of the pistons had stuck! The engine bay was still filthy with leaves and grease. Oh, and the seat belts made an awful noise when you pulled them out.

Now I am not sure what Mercedes expect a 7 year old car to look like, but this is a mobile advertisement for them and with terrible paintwork, iffy wheels and dents in the door and roof; frankly, the condition is below what I expected.

The Sales Manager has said “I spent over 3 grand on the car in the workshop and if you don’t like it we can unwind the deal”. Seems to me they should have appraised the car properly when they bought it and not hold me responsible for their big workshop bill. Surely they have to adhere to Mercedes Approved standards and not prepare the car to a limited budget just because they bought it at the wrong price.

As I said I am not sure of MB’s vehicle condition standards, but if anyone can offer advice it would be appreciated. Or should I talk to Customer Services at MB Head Office? Thanks & regards.
 

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I'd say you've already done the right thing by rejecting it.

Their rules should cover the condition of the car on delivery but from the official perspective they've probably met it. Things like servicing, brakes, tyres etc are formally listed (at least they are at the main dealers) and are probably done to spec. Bodywork is more subjective. For example, a 2001 X wouldn't be expected to be in the same condition as a 55 plater. Their argument is that they've done the bodywork and they have, though possibly not to your (or our) standards.

On the upside, the work they've done is not that unusual in itself. Corrosion, dash cluster are all known weak spots and brakes are normal wear and tear, so there is nothing to be too concerned with here but at the same time it sounds like they're down to the wire on this one (hence the bodge) and aren't prepared to spend another penny. If this is the case, you're better off rejecting it and finding a cleaner example or one where the previous owner has spent a few quid already so there is more available to the dealer for pre sales prep.
The bolts are more of a concern though. As you say, accident damage?
Add in the other faults and you really don't want this car at any price.

If it were me, I'd walk away. Even if they offer to sort it, (and the other faults), they've made it clear that they're spent up and bodywork corrosion is not an area I'd want them to skimp on. It may look fine but will return if not done properly.

Another point of concern is that this corrosion should have been covered under MBs 30 year warranty. If it is, then why has it been bodged? Many of us have had work done under this warranty and the repairs have been excellent. If it's not (and MB direct are paying) then this explains the bodge but it also means that any re-occurences wouldn't be covered so another good reason to walk away.

Lots of lovely cars out there so go find a local one that has been loved (this one clearly hasn't been).
 
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Thanks for the reply jberks- sound advice all round; but I am unsure of whether to reject it totally or not! I looked on the net for ages before finding this one and as MB have spent 3k on it, and you say the faults are common; anything else I look at will probably need a similar amount thrown at it. So another car with inevitably higher mileage, bought for say 5k, will end up owing me more than this one and with a lower quality warranty cover??? Dilemma…

Latest is the salesman rang this morning to say he is taxing a nice 2007 c-class for me to use whilst mine is in the body shop. They have confirmed they will do the paint, attend to the under bonnet issues and sort out the brakes. I now have the sales mgr’s e-mail address too. Believe if MB warranty is paying for the paint it has to be guaranteed? Lets see what the finished article has scrubbed uplike.

Thanks again for the sound advice.

Regards…
 

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As you say, see what it's like when they've finished. Do check the small print and see if they include the no quibble guarantee if there is a problem. This is where they will take the car back without question even if you just don't like the colour of the mats. The dealers do in on newer stuff, not sure if MB direct will do the same.

Also in the mean time, I'd ask to see an HPI report just to make sure it hasn't been pranged before, given your concerns about the wing bolts.
 

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