New Car Has Fault Already!!!!!!!!

littlebrooklyn

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Hi

I am back again, the newbie with the 2yr old Mercedes that my partner went all the way down to Swindon from Hertfordshire to buy yesterday.

Oh my how disappointed we are right now :-(

After a 6hr trip my partner parked the car in the driveway and a short while later he suggested taking me out for a spin. We got in the car, turned on the ignition, depressed the footbrake, went to put the gear lever into drive and it was totally locked in park. For a whole hour we read and re read the manual in the vain hope that we might have done something wrong.

As my partner had worked for years in a Peugeot Dealership as a Service Manager he suspected something was not releasing the solenoid so we phoned the Mercedes Assistance number. They could not get anyone to us until the following morning, today. We were told an engineer would arrive between 8 and 9am, he turned up at 10.45am, with his wife in the van!!!!

He tried to release the gear lever, couldn't and in the end used brute force to wrench the lever out, which it did with a bang. He then informed us that the reason the gear lever was locked was because we had parked the car on a slight slope and that the weight of the engine was keeping it pinned in place. When we mentioned that we had owned an automatic Peugeot 206 for the previous 5yrs with not one single problem, he said 'oh maybe you should have kept that then!!!!!!'....how to instill confidence in your product NOT!

He told us in future to always put the car in neutral, apply the handbrake, let the car settle, then push into park. He also recommended that if we had the problem again that we should remove the gear lever cover, then with the use of a biro, push back a black plastic plate and then push the end of the biro into a hole which would manually release the pin. We hoped that this would be an end to the problem. However my partner informed me that the Mercedes workshop had told him that our particular year of car, 2003, had no manual override available, although the mechanic insisted they were wrong.
We assumed the problem was fixed.

A few hours later we took the car out for it's first spin. We parked outside a relatives house on a flat road using the procedure the mechanic had told us to use. When we returned to the car, guess what???? the ****** gear box was locked again!!!!!! My partner lifted up the cover of the gear lever and knocked back the black plastic plate but there was no hole, the workshop was right, our particular car does not have this manual override facility. By sheer brute force and in danger of seriously damaging the car we finally managed to shift the gear lever out of park and drove it home.

Two hours later and numerous phone calls to Mercedes Assistance, we sit here with a car we cannot drive and an after sales service that is totally crap. Mercedes Assistance wish to recover the car and leave us to make our own way to pick up a hire car. We were not happy with that response and asked that a Mercedes technician be sent to sort the problem out. They responded by saying they would get back to us in 10mins.....which was 2hrs ago.

This car cost us an awful lot of money, we mistakenly thought we were buying a quality car with quality back up service. Right now we would just like to get our money back and go back to a simple Peugeot.

I would appreciate any comments from any other owners having this problem.

Lyn...seriously miffed mercedes owner
 

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I have heard of this happening before alright, not just on MBs.

As for putting it in Neutral and then parking brake. I would not do that myself.

I put the parking brake on before going to 'P'.

But by the sound of what you describe, I would say there is a fault with this mechanism in your car.

Pascal

EDIT: I would say there may be a problem with your brake switch.
 
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Hi Pascal

Yeah I am sure there is a fault on the car, but don't you think when they sell you a car that is still under it's manufacturers warranty and they are charging an arm and a leg for it, that they make sure it actually works too!!!!

Also the Mercedes Assistance people are pretty inefficent and if the technician we had today is a typical example of Mercedes technicians then we could be in for a long and bumpy ride with this car.

Having vented my spleen and written an epic I do still think the car looks magnificent lol!
 

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There's a fault, it shouldnt do this. The car is under warranty so make sure they fix it befire the warranty runs out.
 
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You can tell I'm female as I wrote an epic and all the men reply with just a line or two. There must be a subliminal message here.

By the way anyone know how I can upload an avatar, I've been to the control panel etc and can't get one :-?
 

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Hi Lyn,

We understand your position here, and you have a right to be angry.
The reason most people are only writing one liners here, is they don't really know the full story. Beleive me I know of some people whom complained that the couldn't get their car in or out of gear on Autos, and it turned out they were not depressing the brake pedal while trying to do so. Others have tried to get the key out with foot still on the brakes.
These are all safety devices on MB auto cars.

On a lighter note:
You must have seen the US car on sky. This guy left the engine running whilst going into a store. The vibration from the ticking over engine moved the lever fron 'P' to drive. The car then decided to go for a spin itself, driving around in a circle 'till eventually one guy hopped in and knocked it out of gear.:D :D

I know that you are used to Auto's, and you know the procedure for driving autos. But we are reserving full judgement here. Besides being embarrasing, it is very annoying having a problem with your car so soon after purchase. But most of us here prefer a gentler approach to a situation (at first), and not go out, all guns blazing. If the problem is not rectified in the next few days, that's a different story.

At present, the problem seems to be with this individual technician, although calling him names wont help at this stage, as he only came out once and thought he had sorted your problem.

Regards the avatars. First you need to have a small picture on your computer or on the web. (100x100 pixels & 34.2kb max)
Click 'User CP', then 'Edit Avatar' on the left.
On the next screen, click 'browse' and find your picture on you computer
Click save, and make sure 'use custom avatar' box is checked.

If you are unable to do the above, it is because you are a new member, but VB can change this when he gets back to the control panel tomorrow.

Pascal
 

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if the car is 2 years old it is still under warranty. go to a different dealer and have it checked out.
 

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Sounds Like It May A Brakelight Switch Problem?it Serve 2 Purposes,1 Is To Operate Stop Lights And The 2nd Is To Send A Signal To The Ignition Switch To Disengage The Gearlever From Being Locked In Park.hope This Is Helpfull.
 

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Hi,
Think yourself lucky! My first C class lasted 30 minutes! Huge grin on my face, took my 2 1/2 year old gleaming pride and joy to show off to to my Dad, jumped in ....and the key wouldn't turn! After 3 hours sitting in his office, with mechanics going back and forth, I spent the next day with a loan car.

Seriously, Its very common for used cars to arrive with a fault or two that the previous owner never bothered to get sorted and that didn't show up on the PDI. Its a pain, but I've not had a car yet that didn't. I've even had a brand new 22k audi blow up 18 hours after delivery. Sh.t happens. What is important now is how MB deal with it. I would suggest you insist they take it immediately into the workshop and go right though it, collecting it from your home and leaving you the loan car of your choice whilst they do so. Don't bother with the service dept, go directly to the salesman, let him deal with the beurocracy. And a voucher for the next service wouldn't go amis either! (Don't get mad - get even!)
Good luck,
Julian
 
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Well we had another visit from the same Mercedes Assistance Technician that had told us the slight slope of our drive was the problem. After admitting that the problem was likely to be something else he decided to replace the switch. After a lot of messing about inside the car the guy confessed he didn?t know where the switch was. He then had a look under the bonnet and said it was one of three switches in there, but he wasn?t sure which one. At that point we said perhaps it would be best to just leave it and we would get back to the dealership we bought the car from.

The car has actually been fine since then, although I did phone the dealership today to see what the salesman thought and he seems to be of the opinion that when they put the new rear brake pads in that maybe something had happened then to cause this intermittent fault.

We live a pretty long way from the dealership concerned so I guess we will have to make arrangements to take it into our local dealership in Watford and hope that they are able to sort it out there. Thank you all for your help and advice, it?s much appreciated.

Lyn
 

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Lyn
Just in from local (non MB) meeting (really tired),
Glad to hear problem has not re-occured since technicion re-visited. Keeping fingers crossed for you. My dad has a 03 c220cdi. One prob. sorted for free by MB.

Hope yee all have a good time at the wedding

Pascal

PS: Happy (belated) Birthday
 

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Just to add.....

I regularly park on quite a steep slope, never had a problem like yours. So far no transmission problems.....stop car, usually then handbrake and then P but often do it in any other order too.

Your car should not have this problem with the slope, when you think about it the MB explanation is nothing short of ridiculous. Is the earth flat? Funny some nice Italian quite a few centuries ago proved it was round...not flat. Maybe someone needs to tell MB...They need to sort it out and if there is one thing dealing with MB has taught me is never trust them, always assume they are out to screw you. Rather than admit to a problem and sort it out they will do everything to convince you it is 'normal' just to drag you past the warranty deadline and then they will find the problem and sort it out at huge expense while telling you tough luck warranty is expired. I will accept any car gets a problem but MB are the worst for sorting them out.
 
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Good link SLinKyjoe and thank you all for your responses ;)

Well I?m still not sure what is wrong with our car. Touch wood it?s been fine since last week although I have to say I?m a bit loathe to go anywhere far in case we park the car and it locks again.

My partner is convinced it was just a ?glitch? and possibly also because he?d never driven a Mercedes before, but being a bit of a sceptic I?m inclined to think it?s probably an intermittent fault and it?s going to do it again. Just gotta hope if it?s going to do it again it does so within the warranty period.

We did have some new rear brake pads put on the car before we picked it up, so I wonder if that could have affected the switch. I think my partner is concerned that if he takes the car in for them to check over, as the fault has come and then gone, they are most likely going to say there is nothing wrong with it.

One thing I hadn?t realised about Mercedes Assistance is that the technicians are not Mercedes trained, you would kinda think as they are only working on Mercedes cars that they would be fully trained Mercedes technicians.

Lyn
 

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