EmilysDad
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The red triangle for the collision warning will often appear on my dash .... God only knows what it thinks I'm going to hit when I'm the only car on the road!
A pothole?The red triangle for the collision warning will often appear on my dash .... God only knows what it thinks I'm going to hit when I'm the only car on the road!
That was the big thing that put me off a Tesla. Big centre screen and nothing in front of driver.The single biggest thing I hate in modern cars is the tendency to put everything on a centrally mounted touch screen.
Physical buttons can be felt for and also do the same thing every time you touch them.
A touch screen the 'buttons' can do totally different things depending on which screen is showing (just like the info display in Mercedes do but at least that little screen is in your sight line).
and they have it in landscape which is the wrong way round.... its only the 3 that has ONLY the middle screen the other's gets something where its supposed to be,That was the big thing that put me off a Tesla. Big centre screen and nothing in front of driver.
No. The two cars were developed by completely different teams of engineers on different continents for both different markets and target customers, sourced through different suppliers and scored against different criteria.if we pretend the issue with "Nissan and their interesting steering feel" is just me - can you explain these comments in Car magazine re. a new Nissan Ariya electric vehicle where the journalist says...
"straight from the off the steering rack feels like its had caffine injected directly into the eyeballs, taking you by surprise with its alertness off-centre"
Bollocks. No reliability was lowered, my experience was very clearly that no design changes that made reliability scores worse were allowed.hey I 'd just like them to build proper cars like they used to - before learning how to lower reliability with Renault's help - if they have experts intent on ruining them they should expect feedback
horrid big exterior mirrors (maybe drive a Toyota they work)
vying for the worst stereo quality of any car I've been in
a speedo that was 7 kph out at 100 (with some bemusing adjustment to offset the speed limit nag - just as well !!!)
that gear lever interlock for reverse
and do we need cars as wide as an HGV?
and they have it in landscape which is the wrong way round.... its only the 3 that has ONLY the middle screen the other's gets something where its supposed to be,
oh no - they stole the steering wheel - I forgot that "improvement"
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So how would you base this fact on the Renault clones based on the Qashqai. Most of what you mention is drivel. Some Nissans I have driven have way over heay power steering. The Terrano springs to mind. Also the mk1 Nissan X-Trail T30 has heavy steering. The Qashqai mk1 J10 has electric power steering which the feedback is very twitchy and light. It is a Renault system used. I have not driven the mk2 J11 Qashqai which I believe the original poster is talking about.No. The actual target Qashqai owner is a 34yo architect, married to a nurse with two children aged 12 and 7. Im seriously not making it up, that’s how exact and specific they go when assigning target demographic for different vehicles/ platforms.
Nothing to do with women. The issue is that the average Japanese man finds typical European car steering feedback uncomfortably heavy and tiring after 2+ hours behind the wheel (which is what that particular design standard is based around).
One might well ponder why this is an issue for the Qashqai which is designed specifically for the European market (by a British design team, in Beds…) but that’s because the evil Japanese overlords won’t allow them to challenge ride & handling design standards. Plus, I think the steering module is cross carline with X Trail which is sold as a premium Japanese market SUV.
I should point out that it isn’t “customer ratings” that are used, there are teams of engineers specially trained to score the various performance aspects and these guys will go all around the world to the different engineering tech centres to carry out that work.
One amusing example- the key for the Infiniti Q30. This was a last gen A Class (W174) with a different body & interior. Now, Nissan had never before launched an Audi A3 hatchback competitor- yes, it’s in Qashqai’s basket but only to keep things honest. So they decided to err on the side of caution. Studies had shown that the touch feeling of coldness was a premiumness enhancer. Interior door handles, gear knob if alloy etc. Metal has a different tactile feel to plastic. So, this car got metal interior door release handles and metal inserts along the ignition key. This was initially a standard MB key from Hutchinsons with a different logo. Not anymore, we can get another 5 points on the driver’s position tactile feedback score with metal inserts… tooling budget was gone so they had to go for milled aluminium. For 40k cars per year. Shaped blocks that replace the silver strips down the edges of your ignition key…. Mental. I think that added €20 per key.
I worked on the development team for Qashqai J11, J11 minor change, J12, Juke F15, F16 minor change, Note E12, Leaf Z10 & Z11 plus a few others. Body & Platform metal, exterior trim, lamps, wash & wipe, bumpers & paint, plus a bit of electrical and interior work.So how would you base this fact on the Renault clones based on the Qashqai. Most of what you mention is drivel. Some Nissans I have driven have way over heay power steering. The Terrano springs to mind. Also the mk1 Nissan X-Trail T30 has heavy steering. The Qashqai mk1 J10 has electric power steering which the feedback is very twitchy and light. It is a Renault system used. I have not driven the mk2 J11 Qashqai which I believe the original poster is talking about.
The Qashqai IIRC is built in the UK
On a Mercedes the red triangle is not a collision warning, it's only telling you that you're too close to the car in front and you should leave a bigger gap.The red triangle for the collision warning will often appear on my dash .... God only knows what it thinks I'm going to hit when I'm the only car on the road!
I fully understand its "luck of the drawer"
That’s when you go to the kitchen dresser, open it and try to find your car keys without lookingI've heard of the "luck of the draw", but what is the luck of the drawer?
OK ... the triangle appears when I'm the only car on the road so couldn't be too close to anything!On a Mercedes the red triangle is not a collision warning, it's only telling you that you're too close to the car in front and you should leave a bigger gap.
If there's no car in front of you then your car has some kind of a fault.
The collision warning is taken care of with the active brake assist which will perform an emergency stop if the car thinks you are going to run into someone else.
Well I had one of the first X Trails (T30), bought brand new, the steering was heavy and the front tyres lasted only 12,000 mile before both outside edges were bald. Apart from that, the VIN plate said it was manufactured in Kyoto.X Trail T32 is built in the St. Petersburg plant, or was until February when everything was shut down and Nissan pulled out. X Trail T31 for the RoW market was built in Togliatti and T30 at Shatai in Kanda, Japan. All models had some volume assembled as add-ons in various Philippine/ Thai plants.
T30 had ludicrously easy & light power steering. I could drive the car with one finger if I wanted to, it was that light. Way too light for my tastes, so I don’t know what was up with the one you drove.
Not quite, the red triangle should never appear if you have nothing in front of you unless it's faulty or confused.OK ... the triangle appears when I'm the only car on the road so couldn't be too close to anything!
I have been in the position where I've had to suddenly brake when I was a little too close & I believe the car gave a little extra braking for me ..... emergency brake assist ???
Sometimes the collision assist can be confused with bollards, or if the road bends around so what is “in front” of you isn’t necessarily where you’re going.Not quite, the red triangle should never appear if you have nothing in front of you unless it's faulty or confused.
Emergency brake assist will stop you before you have even thought of pressing the brake yourself if it thinks you are going to collide with something.
Having said that, there a multiple versions of all these systems depending on the spec of every car.