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I've noticed an interesting thing with regards the fuel consumption of my E220 CDI (W211) Estate . I am a qualified engineer (BSc and MSC and Chartered) working in the aerospace industry and I've attempted to explain my findings using my Engineering knowledge. The purpose of this thread is to see if you guys and gals concur with my explanation and also to see if any of you have noticed the same with your driving. Its gonna be a long post! And having just read it, it would appear that I cant deny that I am a geek!

So, if I drive my car at 70 MPH (all numbers are indicated as on the dash, not actuals - but this shouldn’t matter) - I get 41 MPG. However, if I increase my steady speed to 80 MPH - I get better MPG 42.5-43. Why is this I thought? So here comes the VERY SIMPLISTIC Engineering Theory...

Drag - drag increases with the square of the speed - therefore drag from 70 to 80 does not go up by 1-7/8ths (approx 12%) but more like 1-(70sq/80sq) - more like 23%. This is one of the reasons why driving faster uses more fuel. However, drag is really measured by frontal area divided by length – known as drag co-efficient or CDa. Think of it this way, I have to punch a hole in the air directly in front of me to move forwards. But once I've made that hole, i can pass as much of the body of the car through it for free (ie I don’t have to make a new hole in the air once the top of the windscreen is through). This is why most trains have a flat front end. There is very little reason putting a pointy nose on a train as after it has punched a hole in the air - the whole of the length of the long train doesn’t have to do any more work in pushing the air aside to get past that point - hence long trains have some of the lowest drag coefficient (CDa - remember Audi made a big thing of them in the 80s) of any transport system. Also, this is one of the benefits of putting BIG front spoilers/airdams on cars - the idea being to force the air over the car, pushing the car onto the ground and therefore lowering its frontal area. So, here we have a drag curve which increases with speed. But my Merc is the Estate version, so its probably has a lower CDa than the equivalent saloon as once we are past the top of the windscreen, the airflow doesn’t get disturbed again until the end of the car...ie - its a very short train!

Engine - All thermal engines are (a) a compromise and (b) have a sweet spot where they are 'right sized'. What do I mean by these statements? Well, the engine is a compromise in the sense that at low speeds it is clearly too big for the job in hand (a 5.0L V8 doing 30 mph!) and at high speed it is too small (that’s why we stop accelerating) . And like the drag, we have a nice curve against rpm where we can see peak power and torque. And this isn’t at the max allowable revs for the engine as at very high revs, we have to overcome a lot of internal mechanical work (ie stopping the cylinder at the top dead center and the stopping it again at bottom dead center 7000 times per minute!!), and also we want the engine to last a few 100’000s of miles! . But that’s not all, all thermal engines give us their best thermal efficiency when they are worked hard. Here we are looking for the biggest differences (and again this is simplified) in both inlet and outlet temperatures and pressures and we get this when we work the engine hard (but not too hard – see above!, jet engines are better at being worked hard as their limiting factor is often the turbine blades melting – but in general you can keep revving a jet harder for better efficiency, so you build the smallest engine you can get away with based on your max power needs and rev the bollocks off of it!).
So what does this all mean for getting the best MPG on a cruise? Well, as we drive faster, the engine becomes more thermally efficient as we are working it harder, also our speed increase so we do more miles for a given time/amount of fuel used (hence MPG increases) but on the down side the work needed to be done to push against the static air also increases (quite alarmingly – it’s a speed squared rule!). So if we plot all of these curves we can find the speed that gives us our best MPG and sweet spot where the engine is ‘right sized’ – ie exactly the right size – for the job it is doing.
Now the E220CDi has the smallest diesel engine, being worked hard by a big turbo (the turbo basically recovers energy from the exhaust stream), and at 70 mph we still haven’t reached the peak of our efficiency curve – which I suspect is quite flat by now. By increasing our speed by 10 mph we do indeed increase our fuel flow, but we are now travelling 12.5% faster – so the net effect is to decrease the amount of fuel needed to cover a single mile – hence the increase in MPG. Also, I suspect that the estate in avantgarde form (ie lowered suspension, so a bit less frontal area, and a long flat roofline, and skinnyish tyres on the 220) is quite slippery and this offsets a bit of the drag increase. I also suspect that the 220CDI engine will show better gains than the bigger diesel s as it really is the smallest engine for the job in hand (which is what aeroplane makers do, see above).
Anyway, I hope this is of interest. Please feel free to contradict me and point out the errors in my assumptions. And, has anyone else experienced this increase in fuel economy by driving faster?
 

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As you say - it depends entirely on where the sweet spot is. The one aspect I wonder about is fuel/air mix. As you open the throttle to go faster, you are effectively adding more fuel into the cylinder per cycle (together with more air, compressed more by the turbo as revs increase). The faster you go, the more cycles x fuel per cycle. As the gearing is fixed, you get x feet of progress per cycle irrespective of fuel used in that cycle so effectively going faster by adding more fuel simply uses more fuel. On the contrasting side however, go below a certain speed and the proportion of fuel used simply to keep eveything running (providing no useful propulsion) increases dramatically - hence, as you say 30mph isn't very efficient either.

Cars are generally designed to have a sweet spot at around 55mpg to fit in with fuel stats and this is certainly my experience. But whereas the improvement in fuel efficiency is dramatic say between 30 and 60, the drop back down the other side is nowhere near as severe as you go the other side - so 90 produces far better MPG than 30. e.g. I'll get 30mpg at 30-35mpg, 45-50mpg at 60 and 35-40mpg at 90.

So I guess I'm saying yes I agree. Technically, the faster you go, the better the economy. Clearly there are lots of caveats, the engine you have and the speed you go. For example I dare say I'll drop well below 30mpg if I pushed on to 120+ (its already on the downwards swing at 90). Also, conditions have a huge effect and cruising is a totally different proposition to motorway traffic. In the real world, maintaining 90 is impossible and hence you have consistent energy loss with braking and acceleration.

When I was 18-19 I used to travel Leeds to Leicester with the clock at 90+ twice a week. I'd get home and fill up ready for the next day. One day I was stopped just south of Sheffield and spooked (I was young), did the rest of the journey at 65-70. On arriving home I looked at the fuel guage and rather than the needle just above the red I was used to, it had 1/2 a tank left. But then that was in a 4 speed 1.3 escort. Lower sweet spot it appears.
 

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Brilliant! don't really understand it, but it all seems logical to me.

Wouldn't dare contradict.
 
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Hi Jberks - great reply!

I think what I have found is that the 'efficiency curve' for want of a better name on my car is optimised for the 70-80 range - i do see quite a big drop off in mpg approaching 90 - the effect of drag and engine mechanical losses. In fact, I suspect the curve is quite flat from 55 say up to 80 - which is brilliant! The designers/engineers have really done a great job! And also, i would suspect a smaller lighter diesel would have a similar shape curve. Also, we have discounted the fuel needed to get to this speed which is generaly awful (say 25 mpg) for me, but can be discounted on a long run. Again, no surprise here - short stop/start trips use more gas! (no s*** Sherlock!)

As an aside - I work for a consultancy that is trying to specify the next generation of gas turbines (jets) for then 150/170 seat class of aircraft (eg 737 A320) - and its ****** hard! We want a drop in fuel consumption of 15% and lower NOx and other nasties. The only way we can achieve this (apart from geared fans) is to specify a smaller core and run the whole thing harder and hotter. And then it will break down more often ... etc etc - quite a fun challenge! (which we haven’t solved if any of you have any good ideas! - we need better materials!)

I've been a great fan of tiny gas turbines in cars running at a constant speed/pressure/temp at their one peak efficiency, coupled to an alternator/electric drive train and batteries. I know volvo looked at this back in the 80s? I think it was on Tomorrows’ World? - I wonder if merc had any plans?
 
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As you say - it depends entirely on where the sweet spot is. The one aspect I wonder about is fuel/air mix. As you open the throttle to go faster, you are effectively adding more fuel into the cylinder per cycle (together with more air, compressed more by the turbo as revs increase). The faster you go, the more cycles x fuel per cycle. As the gearing is fixed, you get x feet of progress per cycle irrespective of fuel used in that cycle so effectively going faster by adding more fuel simply uses more fuel. On the contrasting side however, go below a certain speed and the proportion of fuel used simply to keep eveything running (providing no useful propulsion) increases dramatically - hence, as you say 30mph isn't very efficient either.

Cars are generally designed to have a sweet spot at around 55mpg to fit in with fuel stats and this is certainly my experience. But whereas the improvement in fuel efficiency is dramatic say between 30 and 60, the drop back down the other side is nowhere near as severe as you go the other side - so 90 produces far better MPG than 30. e.g. I'll get 30mpg at 30-35mpg, 45-50mpg at 60 and 35-40mpg at 90.

So I guess I'm saying yes I agree. Technically, the faster you go, the better the economy. Clearly there are lots of caveats, the engine you have and the speed you go. For example I dare say I'll drop well below 30mpg if I pushed on to 120+ (its already on the downwards swing at 90). Also, conditions have a huge effect and cruising is a totally different proposition to motorway traffic. In the real world, maintaining 90 is impossible and hence you have consistent energy loss with braking and acceleration.

When I was 18-19 I used to travel Leeds to Leicester with the clock at 90+ twice a week. I'd get home and fill up ready for the next day. One day I was stopped just south of Sheffield and spooked (I was young), did the rest of the journey at 65-70. On arriving home I looked at the fuel guage and rather than the needle just above the red I was used to, it had 1/2 a tank left. But then that was in a 4 speed 1.3 escort. Lower sweet spot it appears.

1.3 escort 90 plus.... so flat out then! lol
 

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Then of course there is barometric pressure and wind speed and direction to take into account, not forgetting air temperature.
 

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Does anyone know why 56 mph is always quoted as the optimum speed for fuel efficiency when quite obviously (my head still hurts from reading the original post which is excellent by the way) it isn't?
 

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You've just explained why every car or motorcycle I've owned have all had a certain motorway speed that they seemed to feel most comfortable at, I think

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Does anyone know why 56 mph is always quoted as the optimum speed for fuel efficiency when quite obviously (my head still hurts from reading the original post which is excellent by the way) it isn't?

No, its a legacy thing. It was originally used in the 50s (I think) as part of a standard set of measurements to represent constant cruising speed, just below the national speed limit on A-class roads. Since this gives better figures than urban, it became an urbam myth that it was the optimal speed. It's just that it was typically the one measurement out of the standard set of 3 that had the best consumptin number

Hope this helps. My father is a retired road transport engineer, so I have it on good authority!
 

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A little different but the "curve" seems to go down then up then down then back up again when driving my van.

It's very good at said 56mph, fuel consumption goes up if i cruise at 70 mph, it goes up significantly more if i cruise at 80mph.
However, on a number of occasions i've had several hundred miles of motorway to cover and had little or no time to do it (overnight) and i've had better results from cruising as fast as the van will let me go.

I travelled down from Worksop to Weymouth one day (working not holiday) and filled up once i got down there, i'd done about 24mpg, i'd travelled at between 75 and 80 for most of the way down where roads allowed.
The following night i was working in Motherwell.
I drove the van pretty much as fast as i could all the way there, with a stop and fill up; on the way, and a second fill up when i got there, and i'd managed just under 28mpg.
Cruising at between 90 and 100 all the way (once i got to the motorway).

Similar results have been found from other journeys like this.

Generally i'd expect 30mpg had i been travelling at 60mph.
 

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I was wondering myself today whilst crusing at a faster than normal speed on the M1how on earth i was achieving 47MPG! thanks for answering my question without me even having to ask it, this forum is superb!

Matt :)
 

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This is very individual, my V70r peaks at 55mph for the best consumption and drops off right up to 70mph, from 75mph it crashes as the turbo comes into play.

My MB SL is best at 70-80pmh but it does not really drop up to 100+
 

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So, if I drive my car at 70 MPH (all numbers are indicated as on the dash, not actuals - but this shouldn’t matter) - I get 41 MPG. However, if I increase my steady speed to 80 MPH - I get better MPG 42.5-43.
You may be right, but how are you doing those measurements - I would say those differences are well within the range of experimental errors.

In my C270Cdi (estate) I've played around resetting my trip computer on a quiet M5 and the best fuel consumption was at 50. It got worse at any steady speed 10MPH increment faster than that.
One thing I noticed though is that the trip computer remembers the last fuel consumption when it's reset - it doesn't reset to zero and recalculate from when it's reset so the reading is deceptive.

I have seen comments that MB's give better coinsumption around town if driven slightly more sharply, rather than too gently. The only reason I can think this might be likely is that the car gets into higher gear quicker.
 

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WOOOOOH MY HEAD HURTS !!!!! drive as fast as you can/want . fill her up ang go again
 
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Hi y'all - good to see others have seen this too.. some replys ..

rf065 - same for me too - my old 1984 E28 528i likes an indicated 73!

Cnics - As oldcro pointed out on the previous page, it could be your wind(!) - i pound up and down the M4 between london and bristol - its pretty much due West/East. The prevailing wind is westerly - i get better mpg travelling East (going to London ) as I am travelling with the wind rather than against it. Drag is the killer as you go faster (its a v square law), so my apparent speed (true air speed) is often less travelling with the wind and therefore less drag - Outside temp and pressure do affect mpg too , but for most of the year with our temperate 5-25 deg C, and with a turbo engine which compresses the charge to uniformity, it would be a lot less than a 10 mph wind blowing against you.

televison - isnt that a turbo petrol engine? i guess you see mounting mechanical losses as you spin it faster? The engine has to work against the turbo on the compression stroke, so it could be overcharging the engine at the higher speed - also dont the Volvo estates shape have quite a sharp drop off from the end of the roofline to the bumper? This is lousy for drag efficiency - it would create a huge rolling vortex swirling behind the car which your fuel burn is creating (Im sure the old squared off volvos like the 760s did this) - but that bootline is great for handling! Air likes a nice sharp edge to separate from, that’s one of the advantages of a boot spoiler to tell the air its leaving the car here & now! – you get a nice clean separation – with a rolling edge (like a jellymold mk1 sierra) the air separates from it all over the place – ie never in one place all the time – This creates local regions of suck/lift that keep moving all over the car body and you get buffeting (or exciting cross wind handling!)

Rory - yes agreed - i havent measured anything and all off this is well within experimental errors. And yes I am using the mpg gauges on the dash which could well be screwy. However, it happens more often than not, so I can at least conclude that the curve is quite flat from 50 to say 80 on my car – or to put it another way, if I can travel at 80 (indicated – probably more like 75mph) – I should! . Just yesterday i was coming down the M1 and saw the same phenomenon again - i was stuck at 70 for ages and then saw 1-2 mpg improvement when the road cleared and i got up to 80. As for accelerating fast in town, I was an engineering graduate at Rover Cars (I kid you not ) in the 80s. We once we had a competition to see who could use the least fuel on a lap of Silverstone in a Maestro Diesel Van (again I kid you not). The two approaches were to nurse the thing round on minimum throttle (there was no time penalty) – or – accelerate as hard as possible to the 56 mph figure and cruise – and that strategy won. So there could be some truth here. The only other thing I have noticed is that my 220cdi engine is LOUSY in terms of efficiency when it is cold/just started. So regardless of what speed you I do, when the engine is cold, its worth me driving it hard to get the engine up to operating temp, before easing off.

As we broach the £5/gallon diesel ( is that really £1.10 a litre) - I for one am gonna try and squeeze every last mile out of every drop of juice!
 
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Just yesterday i was coming down the M1 and saw the same phenomenon again - i was stuck at 70 for ages and then saw 1-2 mpg improvement when the road cleared and i got up to 80.
I do the same journey of almost 200 miles from Chester to Maidenhead a couple of times per month.
I tend to drive *very* steadily on the motorway - there's no rush and I usually leave home around 10AM and get there a little after 1PM for a 2PM meeting.

It's a 23 mile A road trip to J16 of the M6 and by the time I get there my car is usually showing around 40MPG (having started off at 30MPG).

It then takes pretty well the whole of the rest of the journey (ie a *long* way!) to get the car up to 50MPG (which is the target I always have) and "balanced" to the point that a squirt of accelleration will knock .1mpg off the figure, or a downslope on the over-run will add .1MPG to the figure.

The point I'm making is that you may find your MPG would improve anyway as you pile the distance on, and it might not be related to your speed.
 

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Thanks tpt for an interesting thread,, yes my rear window stay quite a bit cleaner with the spoiler
 

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I have been monitoring my consumption for some time now, zero the computer every trip and record mpg, av speed and watch the economy meter. On level roads it shows that the instantaneous consumption is the same at 80 as it is at 70 and staying around the 80 mark when cruising, makes no difference to the overall journey consumption (motorway + town work).
It would seem that this theory has some ground.
 

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