DREAMER NO2
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Well it would be an EV
You will find that Ford sold Land Rover to BMW in the early 2000's and Ford stitched them up, because BMW had to use Ford power train units for the first of the Third generation Range Rovers. I spent three months snagging the first 1000 production vehicles ready for the launch at the Paris Motor show. in 2001. Also as we were snagging the Range Rovers at Solihull, BMW were snagging the X5's which had similar components to the Range Rovers, when the Germans found faults on X5's we had to rectify on Range Rover and vice versa Range Rover faults were rectified on X5's.Rover was the original company and started by actually making motor cycles before moving onto cars and Rover was an upmarket brand the government used Rover P5B saloons and Coupes these used the Rover 3.5l V8 all alloy engine that was based on the 215 Buick lump. Land Rover was a division of Rover before being split off Rover later was swallowed up by British Leyland then even later become MG-Rover the 75 was made under the MG-Rover brand which was actually owned by BMW during the 75's design which is why they have the M47 diesel engine and BMW Z axle rear suspension, brakes and alarm systems. The M47 supplied to MG-Rover was a detuned version only giving 113 bhp the 75 and the MG ZT version are FWD and not RWD despite having the BMW rear suspension the 75/ZT uses a JATCO 5 speed auto box with the M7 mounted transverse.
Land Rover was later sold to Fords then sold to Tata (Indian company)
I believe BMW never wanted Land Rover for the long term but they just wanted to get their hands on the 4WD technology. Having got that, they then sold LR to Tata.You will find that Ford sold Land Rover to BMW in the early 2000's and Ford stitched them up, because BMW had to use Ford power train units for the first of the Third generation Range Rovers. I spent three months snagging the first 1000 production vehicles ready for the launch at the Paris Motor show. in 2001. Also as we were snagging the Range Rovers at Solihull, BMW were snagging the X5's which had similar components to the Range Rovers, when the Germans found faults on X5's we had to rectify on Range Rover and vice versa Range Rover faults were rectified on X5's.
Just goes to show that you can actually fool a lot of the people.Since they bought Land Rover though you have to admit - the X5 story has been a pretty blinding success - selling between 2 - 3 Million vehicles, and that doesn't include the hugely popular X3, X4, X6, X7, X1 and X2 vehicles...we have had 2 and they are great cars.
I think that would have to be true for all of usMONEY
I bought a brand new S3 Saloon Black Edition in May 2018 in the best colour of Ara Blue.I eventually upgraded to a beautiful panther black, Audi S3 8v, and fell in love with the Audi brand.
unfortuantely, i think Audi post 2019, have completely lost their way. cheap interiors, and bad design.

I bought a brand new S3 Saloon Black Edition in May 2018 in the best colour of Ara Blue.
It was a fantastic car...fast and firmly planted to the road in all weathers.
It wasnt until 2021 that I bought a car that could compete with it, a CLA 35 Premium in another beatiful colour of Sun Yellow. This was when the yellow was an AMG exclusive colour.
Both cars had their plus points, but the gearbox in the S3 was without a doubt better than the CLA.
I do agree with you about the current Audis...far too much black plastic at the front, and the S3 doesn't even have an S3 badge on the grille anymore.