Your right I should have put BLUE BADGE FRAUD in another colour for those whose sight is .......drivel
No, his problem is with a guy he hates and feels the need to tell us all about, but as he thinks that we won't care he has called the thread another name....All about Blue Disabled Permit Badges and if the are being fraudulently used (actually a subject that i would not mind discussing and though i was going to when i clicked on his thread)I'm confused? Blue badge?
Are you griping because this gentleman drives a Ford?
Fat people are fat for one reason. What ever their lifestyle they eat more than their bodies need.
nonsense - http://www.thebls.com/
nonsense - http://www.thebls.com/
In answer to the question "what is lymphoedema" though David, the fact is that it is unusual, except when affecting a specific area of the body, for example women's arms when the lymph nodes have been removed from the armpit at breast surgery.
Generalized lymphoedema of the whole body is not going to happen, or not going to happen for long, so I support Cleverdicky's hypothesis that excess food leads to excess weight. (and I am perhaps a fine example of this myself!).
By and large anything done to you, in the form of massaging or other therapies, is not going to reduce obesity. Anything done by you , such as dietary restraint or exercise will.
HaHa thats only for localised swelling. Not the whole body. You can do better than that. Surly?
Actually i hate to agree with the problem in general. On a couple of levels. Fat people are fat for one reason. What ever their lifestyle they eat more than their bodies need. Whether a disability forces a constrained lifestyle, or just lazy. Its excess calories that makes you fat. But does being fat alone entitle someone to gaining the disabled status.
A flat i had once in 'town' had very limited parking, but right underneath had 2 disabled bays. I often use to see people park up, whip out the badges, easily get out of the car and trot off to do their shopping, with out any struggle or impairment.
I do know the hoops to get one of these things now. But we're really talking here about the judgments and rewards for being disabled, that many dont realise, compared to humble out of work benefits, can amount to substantial differences. And why fraud is rife. And the merits of ticking those boxes is worth it to many who cant or wont work. To many not working, whether lazy or just overweight generally, ticking the box means a far better payout and some might say privileged than not disabled. It truly does cost the country substantial amounts, whether genuine or not. And i do know a few career scroungers that in a lifetime not working have done well with free living & a good lifestyle compared to some who choose to make an honest living working.
In my mind classification is too complex. To me it should be. -
If someone that has 4 limbs that work, and no illness that impairs judgment or ability. They work. No disability disability benefits of any kind.
Less than 4 limbs or an illness, then they get a choice and incremental support and do some work.
But ban all automatic right to a state paid lifestyle and that includes blue badges, as with free or supported housing costs, council tax and mobility scheme
Indeed, i have seen so many people parking on double yellow lines and pulling out a blue badge, drives me mad!
Years ago, if you were disabled and needed a mobility car, you used to get an INVACAR, these were great little three wheeled cars that had the proper controls for a disabled person to use. The only people that i ever saw driving these cars were genuine disabled people, indeed it would have stood out like a sore thumb if you had seen an Invacar pull up and a person with no apparent disability get out. It was no doubt a money saving scheme that was introduced to use normal cars instead of these purpose built ones, but it seemed that the criteria for getting a car changed at the same time, and all of a sudden it seemed that you did not need to have a major disability to get a car.
The problem as i see it is that if you tell a person who is too fat or too thin or too anything, that they can have a car for free, they will take it, cars are a major purchase and cost a fortune to run, so if you say to a person...we will give you a car and pay for it...odds on they will say thank you very much!
I would make it so that any genuine disabled person got a car, but the rest had to make their own arrangements....As it always was in fact. This would mean a root and branch re organisation of the whole disability gig, but it would get rid of the people who are abusing the system and costing US a fortune.
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If i offered you one of these two cars for free, which would you choose?
Now i would say ....If you are disabled and need transport i will give you this blue car so that you can get about for free and i will pay for its upkeep, would you take it if you didn't really need it? In so doing i am living up to my promise to look after the real disabled people, who would be happy to have a FREE method of transport, but i could not imagine too many freeloaders jumping in for one. ( it would no doubt need a re design as this is a 60's or 70's design, but it will still chop the costs for disabled cars massively.
This is the sort of conversation that i though i would be getting myself into when i first replied to the thread, instead i found a personal vendetta against some lazy, fat, possibly wife pinching, snake bothering twart which the O/P wanted to have a free go at, where he would never know and could not defend himself!
The problem with Invacars was that they were self driven by the disabled. that presumed that the disabled person had a driving licence, and that the disability allowed them the ability to drive. But the Motability scheme (for that is what we are talking about) allows a qualifying person to have a car to drive/be driven in...so no need for a licence, and no need to be fit enough to drive.
My SIL qualified due to severe illness (but died before she could avail of it). She was severely immobile and ill...an Invacar would have been useless in this case.
Diabetics can be obese...through no fault of their own.
Sadly we hear a lot about conditions, low metabolisms, etc but the fact is that you can't create fat (a source of energy) out of nothing.
The human body cannot create fat out of nothing, so if obese people did not eat much then they would eventually become thin. Sure some conditions and metabolisms create more fat per pound of food eaten than others, but that just means they should eat less.
...As above
At least this guy has done something to prevent himself ever getting fat........
He left a well paid job in England to take up a poorly paid job in spain... so he should not be able to afford to eat enough to ever get fat!
Well done fella.