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M271 Engine will not fire - Can crank be 360 degrees out of sync with cam?

Discussion in 'Engine, Drivetrain, Fuel and Exhaust' started by Alan Rodger, Aug 12, 2020.

  1. Alan Rodger

    Alan Rodger New Member

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    May 11, 2020
    Your Mercedes:
    C180K W203 M271 Engine
    My W203 / M271 will not fire. Engine cranks fine but the engine tries to start but will not fire (see movie file attached). It sounds to me like a spark or timing issue because once i turn the key off there is the slightest cough from one of the cylinders. I am wondering if it is possible for the crank and cams to be out of sync by 360 degrees? I say this because this starting issue has only started after i have put the cylinder head back on the car after i had checked the valves after the timing slipped due to worn intake cam gear.

    While conducting the repair of the cam gears i don't remember turning the crank more than a quarter of a turn at any one time but yet i can't figure out why the engine will not start again.

    While lining up the cams and crank i rotated the engine a number of times and everything moved easily and there was no fouling of valves and pistons
    There is definitely fuel getting to the engine because when i first tried to start the engine there was the smell of fuel and i did have a fuel leak where the injector seals had not seated correctly
    I will check the spark plugs to be sure i have a spark but at this time of writing i can't see why the plugs should suddenly need replacing when they worked fine before i stripped down the head

    Is it possible that for some reason the crankshaft and camshafts can be out of sync. I'm presuming not because the crank position sensor can only be on one place of the crankshaft and even if the engine had been turned 360 degrees the sensor would still be in the same place. The same must be true for the camshaft sensor as it can only be in one place and if all of my timing marks line up, then what else could be the reason for not starting.

    Does anyone have an ideas?

  2. Wighty

    Wighty Senior Member

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    Aug 4, 2016
    Sunny Essex
    Your Mercedes:
    W211/E320cdi/2009 and CLK200k 2009
    Being an M271 with possible camchain issues , the chain may have slipped . I wouldn’t try and start it until someone confirms if this is a possibility to risk further engine damage ?
  3. Uncle Benz

    Uncle Benz Senior Member

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    Mar 31, 2006
    West Sussex
    Your Mercedes:
    Mainly Mercedes
    Sounds wrong to me. I would do a quick compression test first. The cranking doesn’t sound like even compression on all cylinders to me. Did you check for bent valves while the head was off?

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