Possible EV.

[bembo449]

General rule of thumb, knock 20% off any manufacturers MPG claim Petrol/Diesel.
So presume same goes for EV distance claims. Be sensible and probably a bit of planning you should never run out of charge, same goes for Petrol/Diesel.

only thing with ICE cars is you can get the fuel pretty much anywhere , cant say the same for an EV eh ?

 

[rorywquin]

problem with EV is parting with my car, can't contemplate it

I did the hard yards when I sold my 6 year old SL400 earlier this year - could not justify keeping it to do 500 miles a year.

I hate our B-Class (really wife’s car) so anything we buy next will be a step up.

 

[SmartAmg]

only thing with ICE cars is you can get the fuel pretty much anywhere , cant say the same for an EV eh ?

True, but if you run out of fuel/charge that's your fault, not the car's.

 

[rorywquin]

Had same qualms. Sold it to friend so it's still around.

With energy prices you are paying an EV is a no brainer. My son spent £8000-00 getting a solar array specifically to charge his EV (and run their electric AGA), it is doing so well that he reckons his payback is is about 4 years and he now wants to do the other side of his garage roof (it is massive) and storage. His wife does 40 miles a day just for the school run ( fuel hungry Audi Q8) so he is now considering an EV for her as well.

 

[bembo449]

True, but if you run out of fuel/charge that's your fault, not the car's.

agreed but people do on a regular basis and i know which will be easier to get moving again

 

[Larkone]

Plenty of cheap EVs here

See China’s Abandoned EV Graveyard: Thousands Of Cars Rot In Huge Fields

Drone footage reveals thousands of abandoned electric cars in China from carmakers like Geely and BYD.

insideevs.com

 

[rorywquin]

Plenty of cheap EVs here

See China’s Abandoned EV Graveyard: Thousands Of Cars Rot In Huge Fields

Drone footage reveals thousands of abandoned electric cars in China from carmakers like Geely and BYD.

insideevs.com

I believe that that was a failed government government / car sharing scheme and not really an EV problem. They have a similar problem in Shanghai with 10s of 1000s of abandoned bicycles due to the collapse of bike sharing schemes.

You must have red Darryll Huff’s book.

 

[rich.g.williams]

Had same qualms. Sold it to friend so it's still around.

that would likely be even worse lol

 

[rich.g.williams]

Seriously though something about EV power ratings doesn't seem to ring true.

Consider an EV car capable of 250 KWatt power, that's a massive amount of power to get out of a battery even the cabling, assume 250 Volts for a cable to carry 250 KWatt at 250 Volts it has to carry 1000 Amps, that's some massive cable thickness!

Then there is the design of a motor that can actually handle these powers and be kept cool.

 

[rorywquin]

Seriously though something about EV power ratings doesn't seem to ring true.

Consider an EV car capable of 250 KWatt power, that's a massive amount of power to get out of a battery even the cabling, assume 250 Volts for a cable to carry 250 KWatt at 250 Volts it has to carry 1000 Amps, that's some massive cable thickness!

Then there is the design of a motor that can actually handle these powers and be kept cool.

Your logic is flawed.

 

[rich.g.williams]

Your logic is flawed.

Flawed how please explain

 

[SmartAmg]

Plenty of cheap EVs here

See China’s Abandoned EV Graveyard: Thousands Of Cars Rot In Huge Fields

Drone footage reveals thousands of abandoned electric cars in China from carmakers like Geely and BYD.

insideevs.com

No doubt there's 1000's of Petrol and diesel car's in fields aswell, all over the world. Plus it's on YouTube so must be totally true.

 

[rorywquin]

Flawed how please explain

Well, think about the fact that a Tesla Model S, 2 motor is rated for 504kW yet works flawlessly.

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

This article by Car Magazine seems to to a good (honest) overview of what range to expect from an EV in freezing winter conditions, there is quite a variation in winter performance with a drop off in range varying from 15-30% depending on brand from their experience

Electric cars vs winter: the truth about EVs' range in cold weather

Everything you need to know about electric cars' range in winter: CAR magazine explains how EV's batteries perform in cold temperatures and gives tips for owners

www.carmagazine.co.uk

 

[rich.g.williams]

Well, think about the fact that a Tesla Model S, 2 motor is rated for 504kW yet works flawlessly.

Yes so 250KWatt per motor, my logic is sound and stands, sure these Tesla motors use three phase (so attached by three wires) and maybe voltage above 250 Volts.

But sorry I'm not buying the idea a Tesla motor the size of a football can dispense 250 KWatt of power as mechanical power.

 

[SmartAmg]

This article by Car Magazine seems to to a good (honest) overview of what range to expect from an EV in freezing winter conditions, there is quite a variation in winter performance with a drop off in range varying from 15-30% depending on brand from their experience

Electric cars vs winter: the truth about EVs' range in cold weather

Everything you need to know about electric cars' range in winter: CAR magazine explains how EV's batteries perform in cold temperatures and gives tips for owners

www.carmagazine.co.uk

Interesting read but, all the tests they've done to come to the conclusion EV's will use more power in winter.
(No sh1t Sherlock) Think anyone could have told them that.

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

EVs have only one source of power so every consumable turned on has a very negative effect on range ie, battery heater, air conditioning, COMAND or equivalent, heated seats and steering wheel etc, the whole idea of the article was to alert those less aware and of course compare range drop off between brands - I call that quite useful

 

[SmartAmg]

EVs have only one source of power so every consumable turned on has a very negative effect on range ie, battery heater, air conditioning, COMAND or equivalent, heated seats and steering wheel etc, the whole idea of the article was to alert those less aware and of course compare range drop off between brands - I call that quite useful

Agreed it was useful, but obvious.

 

[bladecrazy]

most of ev driving is just a wee bit of common sense, would you set off on a 300 mile trip with your car on reserve? i guess not, i wouldnt set off on that trip with 10% battery either, its that simple it really is, as we get older change seems more difficult as we get set in our ways but how do you know if something is really good until you try it for yourself , not what others say maybe mike who lives at no 20 says his mate from works uncles nephew had one for a day and he didnt like it, try it yourself .

 

[Blobcat]

most of ev driving is just a wee bit of common sense, would you set off on a 300 mile trip with your car on reserve?

Yes, I would as I could fill up in a few minutes then complete said 300 mile trip without issue.