Possible EV.

[bladecrazy]

standing charge is a pi$$ take, i think whichever way you go and i mean ev or whatever the goverment find ways to tax and profit, pre covid a full charge wouldve been 17.00 now 28.00, it is ripoff britain.

 

[C16RKC]

Exactly.

Worst of all lots of these taxes are in the name of "the environment" or "equality", so they are just being paid out to people with non-jobs to waste everyone's time.

The energy companies make fortunes and justify it because they need the money for "environmental initiatives".

Nothing us mortals can do unfortunately though... we are just along for the ride.

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

As above, the more electric cars the more the standing charges go up - it’s the VAT on energy that I find appalling, we are no longer in the EU Rishi abolish it

 

[rorywquin]

standing charge is a pi$$ take, i think whichever way you go and i mean ev or whatever the goverment find ways to tax and profit, pre covid a full charge wouldve been 17.00 now 28.00, it is ripoff britain.

My supplier (Ovo) seems to continually sneak up the standing charge. Makes no sense if it is supposedly for infrastructure. Just another way to scalp us.

 

[Altamar]

Never thought I would say these words, BUT, I could possibly considering an EV. The car in question is an,
MG 4 X Power.

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have been driving an MG EV4 for the last week. So, based on my extensive (one week!!) knowledge, this what I have learnt so far.

Firstly as far as the MG itself is concerned:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but personally I think the designers have done a better job with the exterior than some bluff front end jobs on other EVs.
They have tried hard to provide value for money in the sense there is a leather steering wheel, armrest and some parts of the door trim. The seats are also half leather.
It comes with advanced cruise control. DAB radio, air con, electric windows etc.
It is surprisingly nippy off the mark and I would be happy to use it as a daily run-around if someone was giving it to me.
it's reasonably comfortable.
There is currently a 0% PCP offer if you can put down 25% deposit

However,
It costs £35k
Only does 200 miles on a full charge
Has that irritating lane keep thing which grabs the steering wheel violently if you go anywhere near a white line (you can disable it but you have to disable it again for every journey)
The touchscreen is very dark (you might be able to adjust it but I can't work out how) and the icons and writing seem to be in font 6.
Indeed the touchscreen is not particularly intuitive and I find it's best to do whatever you want to change whilst stopped.
It has a lot wind noise around the door mirrors.
It doesn't have a quality feel about it and you can see where they have saved money.


As far as the EV experience more generally:
Everyone talks about the EV range but no one seems to be talking about Miles/KwH (think MPG). The MG seems to average about 3 miles/KwH
Equally we talk about there not being enough chargers but a bigger problem is the cost of using public chargers. For example, if I had a home charger I would be paying 30p/KwH but the chargers at my local Tesco are 44p/49p/65p per KwH depending on speed of charge.
The charger at Strensham services on the M5 is 69p/KwH. Some others are £1/KwH.

So, if I could charge at home the MG is costing something like 10p per mile but that would be quite a bit more if I was relying on public chargers.

I appreciate EVs are coming, and I am not against them in principle, but a week of driving one has been interesting.

 

[rf065]

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have been driving an MG EV4 for the last week. So, based on my extensive (one week!!) knowledge, this what I have learnt so far.

Just to add, the MG name has been bought by a Chinese company, so nothing to do with MG, we all knew that anyway.
Also, I looked for reliability reviews and found an Australian publication that ranked MG at 43rd for ICE cars and 27th for EV's, does that inspire anyone?

 

[malcolm E53 AMG]

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have been driving an MG EV4 for the last week. So, based on my extensive (one week!!) knowledge, this what I have learnt so far.

Firstly as far as the MG itself is concerned:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but personally I think the designers have done a better job with the exterior than some bluff front end jobs on other EVs.
They have tried hard to provide value for money in the sense there is a leather steering wheel, armrest and some parts of the door trim. The seats are also half leather.
It comes with advanced cruise control. DAB radio, air con, electric windows etc.
It is surprisingly nippy off the mark and I would be happy to use it as a daily run-around if someone was giving it to me.
it's reasonably comfortable.
There is currently a 0% PCP offer if you can put down 25% deposit

However,
It costs £35k
Only does 200 miles on a full charge
Has that irritating lane keep thing which grabs the steering wheel violently if you go anywhere near a white line (you can disable it but you have to disable it again for every journey)
The touchscreen is very dark (you might be able to adjust it but I can't work out how) and the icons and writing seem to be in font 6.
Indeed the touchscreen is not particularly intuitive and I find it's best to do whatever you want to change whilst stopped.
It has a lot wind noise around the door mirrors.
It doesn't have a quality feel about it and you can see where they have saved money.


As far as the EV experience more generally:
Everyone talks about the EV range but no one seems to be talking about Miles/KwH (think MPG). The MG seems to average about 3 miles/KwH
Equally we talk about there not being enough chargers but a bigger problem is the cost of using public chargers. For example, if I had a home charger I would be paying 30p/KwH but the chargers at my local Tesco are 44p/49p/65p per KwH depending on speed of charge.
The charger at Strensham services on the M5 is 69p/KwH. Some others are £1/KwH.

So, if I could charge at home the MG is costing something like 10p per mile but that would be quite a bit more if I was relying on public chargers.

I appreciate EVs are coming, and I am not against them in principle, but a week of driving one has been interesting.

And….it doesn’t sound to me like you would invest your hard earned cash in one

 

[SmartAmg]

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have been driving an MG EV4 for the last week. So, based on my extensive (one week!!) knowledge, this what I have learnt so far.

Firstly as far as the MG itself is concerned:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but personally I think the designers have done a better job with the exterior than some bluff front end jobs on other EVs.
They have tried hard to provide value for money in the sense there is a leather steering wheel, armrest and some parts of the door trim. The seats are also half leather.
It comes with advanced cruise control. DAB radio, air con, electric windows etc.
It is surprisingly nippy off the mark and I would be happy to use it as a daily run-around if someone was giving it to me.
it's reasonably comfortable.
There is currently a 0% PCP offer if you can put down 25% deposit

However,
It costs £35k
Only does 200 miles on a full charge
Has that irritating lane keep thing which grabs the steering wheel violently if you go anywhere near a white line (you can disable it but you have to disable it again for every journey)
The touchscreen is very dark (you might be able to adjust it but I can't work out how) and the icons and writing seem to be in font 6.
Indeed the touchscreen is not particularly intuitive and I find it's best to do whatever you want to change whilst stopped.
It has a lot wind noise around the door mirrors.
It doesn't have a quality feel about it and you can see where they have saved money.


As far as the EV experience more generally:
Everyone talks about the EV range but no one seems to be talking about Miles/KwH (think MPG). The MG seems to average about 3 miles/KwH
Equally we talk about there not being enough chargers but a bigger problem is the cost of using public chargers. For example, if I had a home charger I would be paying 30p/KwH but the chargers at my local Tesco are 44p/49p/65p per KwH depending on speed of charge.
The charger at Strensham services on the M5 is 69p/KwH. Some others are £1/KwH.

So, if I could charge at home the MG is costing something like 10p per mile but that would be quite a bit more if I was relying on public chargers.

I appreciate EVs are coming, and I am not against them in principle, but a week of driving one has been interesting.

Interesting report, thanks for that.

 

[spoonerh]

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have been driving an MG EV4 for the last week. So, based on my extensive (one week!!) knowledge, this what I have learnt so far.

Firstly as far as the MG itself is concerned:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but personally I think the designers have done a better job with the exterior than some bluff front end jobs on other EVs.
They have tried hard to provide value for money in the sense there is a leather steering wheel, armrest and some parts of the door trim. The seats are also half leather.
It comes with advanced cruise control. DAB radio, air con, electric windows etc.
It is surprisingly nippy off the mark and I would be happy to use it as a daily run-around if someone was giving it to me.
it's reasonably comfortable.
There is currently a 0% PCP offer if you can put down 25% deposit

However,
It costs £35k
Only does 200 miles on a full charge
Has that irritating lane keep thing which grabs the steering wheel violently if you go anywhere near a white line (you can disable it but you have to disable it again for every journey)
The touchscreen is very dark (you might be able to adjust it but I can't work out how) and the icons and writing seem to be in font 6.
Indeed the touchscreen is not particularly intuitive and I find it's best to do whatever you want to change whilst stopped.
It has a lot wind noise around the door mirrors.
It doesn't have a quality feel about it and you can see where they have saved money.


As far as the EV experience more generally:
Everyone talks about the EV range but no one seems to be talking about Miles/KwH (think MPG). The MG seems to average about 3 miles/KwH
Equally we talk about there not being enough chargers but a bigger problem is the cost of using public chargers. For example, if I had a home charger I would be paying 30p/KwH but the chargers at my local Tesco are 44p/49p/65p per KwH depending on speed of charge.
The charger at Strensham services on the M5 is 69p/KwH. Some others are £1/KwH.

So, if I could charge at home the MG is costing something like 10p per mile but that would be quite a bit more if I was relying on public chargers.

I appreciate EVs are coming, and I am not against them in principle, but a week of driving one has been interesting.

 

[spoonerh]

You are very wrong I have a MG4ev trophy model ,fantastic to drive just been to Edinburgh in one go 255 miles cost,
of the car was £31450 comfy well sorted up to now very viscous lane control but I turn it off on long trips sometimes
brake for no reason to me very rare though good boot ,I bought a space saver wheel for piece of mind , I had an vw id3
before the MG is a lot better spec £6000 cheaper first stray from German cars I looked at the Mercedes ev beter spec
nicer interior but well over £20000 dearer

 

[bladecrazy]

good to hear , do you charge at home? how do you find home charges compared to superchargers price wise.

 

[spoonerh]

Yes always charge at home which is very cheap when on a long run like Edinburgh i
only have to charge at a supercharger which are very expensive plus the goverment
charge 20 percent vat only 5 percent at home so more expensive than petrol and
diesel , the way things are going you will have to pay by the mile they don't want cars
on the roads electric or petrol and diesel look at all the 0 mph speed zones which I
agree with near schools hospitals ect but why everywhere, I bought they Chinese car
because mercedes tried to rip me off on repairs I am getting rid of the Mercedes and buying a
classic that's over 40 years old

 

[spoonerh]

20 mile speed zones should have read or maybe 0 is correct

 

[bladecrazy]

funny had the same thing in a roundabout way , had a e350 bluetec which was a great car until things started going wrong , ie nox sensors @ 500 a pop, didnt wait for the adblue tank to expire and sold it with a clear concience, now have a 44 year old w123 3 litre diesel and just taxed for a year at my local post office for free for a year, i have a model 3 performance and only charge at home as this seems to be the cheapest option.

 

[SmartAmg]

Modified MG 4, think it looks great.
(Touch paper lit, waiting. )

 

[Blobcat]

 

[spoonerh]

I think that's the new MG4 ev performance 300 miles on a charge 0 to 60 in 3.4 seconds price £36500
comes out later this year in the uk , at the end of the day its one or two electric motors so why is there
sometimes £100000 difference in price Porsche electric is £140000 for a few extras I think I may buy
a early mercedes 107 maybe a 350 as I used to have one in the 80s

 

[rorywquin]

I think that's the new MG4 ev performance 300 miles on a charge 0 to 60 in 3.4 seconds price £36500
comes out later this year in the uk , at the end of the day its one or two electric motors so why is there
sometimes £100000 difference in price Porsche electric is £140000 for a few extras I think I may buy
a early mercedes 107 maybe a 350 as I used to have one in the 80s

Perhaps sit in and drive a Porsche and you will understand the difference................

Perhaps better to comapre the MG to a Hyundai or Kia......

 

[SmartAmg]

Perhaps sit in and drive a Porsche and you will understand the difference................

Perhaps better to comapre the MG to a Hyundai or Kia......

Have to agree, as much as I like, the MG 4 X Power, the Taycan is on another Planet, but then again so is the price. And alas I'm not on planet, Porsche Taycan.

 

[DSK]

I know that the likes of Bugatti (I can say that now as they announced it themselves), Ferrari, Porsche have been working with Rimmac for the EV tech for a few years at least. I would also suspect VAG did for the performance EVs. The Rimmac is just a tech showcase but it’s their know how and offerings they sell to the manufacturers.

Not sure where MG and others are getting their EV tech from but I wouldn’t be surprised if Rimmac is inputting as it’s customers require.


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