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[jasonyw]

in view of petrol price keep going up, who got one?

is it still a washing machine joke?

changing the battery alone costs $2K

or is it best to take the next leap forward fully electric or hybrid smart or honda insight?

pls trash it out

 

[100%Bitch]

Why should we bother, Dragon?

 

[prwales]

horrible car to drive, I'd rather walk

 

[Developer]

Why should we bother, Dragon?

We could enquire about your holiday and hijack the thread

 

[dieselman]

horrible car to drive, I'd rather walk

Is that just a comment or have you driven one.

I haven't but apart from the jiggly ride don't see any reason to be put off per-se, but obviously a diesel hybrid would have made even more sense.

or would it given that the electric motor really makes up for the poor round town acceleration issue on a petrol car, would it fair as well in comparison against a torquey diesel?

 

[100%Bitch]

We could enquire about your holiday and hijack the thread

Now that's interesting.

It was horribly hot and sunny, people were horribly nice and friendly, country was horribly nice and beer and G&Ts were horribly cold. In all, it was awful.

****** Thailand, must go back to confirm how awful it was.

 

[prwales]

Is that just a comment or have you driven one.

I haven't but apart from the jiggly ride don't see any reason to be put off per-se, but obviously a diesel hybrid would have made even more sense.

or would it given that the electric motor really makes up for the poor round town acceleration issue on a petrol car, would it fair as well in comparison against a torquey diesel?

I have, the semi auto box is not great, visibility is only so so and the cabin is cramped, but the worst thing is you are constantly looking at the fuel consumption and electric power reserve, a Ford Mondeo is a much nicer car to drive and in diesel form much more economical.

 

[100%Bitch]

Should have been called the Toyota Pious!

 

[rf065]

Should have been called the Toyota Pious!

One passed me on the m/way in excess of 90mph, surely the driver did not understand the point of driving them? :lol:

Russ

 

[dieselman]

With a Cd of 0.25 it is still more efficient than most other cars.

 

[Rappey69]

One can always buy one of them skoda fabia 1.4 diesels.. they actually drive nice, failry nippy, do easy 60+ mpg on short journeys and my friend driving like a saint on motorway got his up to 114 mpg..
Who needs an over complicated hybrid ?

 

[Alex M Grieve]

One can always buy one of them skoda fabia 1.4 diesels.. they actually drive nice, failry nippy, do easy 60+ mpg on short journeys and my friend driving like a saint on motorway got his up to 114 mpg..
Who needs an over complicated hybrid ?

With a SKODA it is always easy to Czech the fuel consumption.

 

[dbanbery]

buy something old. the embodied energy and additional "stuff to go wrong" in a modern hybrid is bad IMHO

i can comment on the drive etc as ive never driven one. if its purely a running cost decision then i would suggest buying something with an LPG conversion.

 

[roadhog]

Why should we bother, Dragon?

He's not the Dragon (told me so himself ), he's just a very naughty boy. :lol:

Like the tag at the bottom of the page though. :lol:

 

[kth286]

I just wish everybody would quickly buy up all these electric/hybrid cars and make it a mass market.

Then there would be less demand for petrol and the price would come down.

I could then have it all to myself - he he he !

 

[prwales]

buy something old. the embodied energy and additional "stuff to go wrong" in a modern hybrid is bad IMHO

i can comment on the drive etc as ive never driven one. if its purely a running cost decision then i would suggest buying something with an LPG conversion.

have to agree with this, whats the life expectancy of the average car...7 years or so. This is terrible waste of energy and resources, cars should be built to last and that does mean simple engineering and they should be repaired and repaired again, both my cars are approaching 20 years old but both are very healthy. In the case of the G-Wagen I expect it to last another 20 years. There are no shortage of 40 year old Land Rovers around and with respect to them compared to the G they are rubbish.

 

[jasonyw]

have to agree with this, whats the life expectancy of the average car...7 years or so. This is terrible waste of energy and resources, cars should be built to last and that does mean simple engineering and they should be repaired and repaired again, both my cars are approaching 20 years old but both are very healthy. In the case of the G-Wagen I expect it to last another 20 years. There are no shortage of 40 year old Land Rovers around and with respect to them compared to the G they are rubbish.

plastic cars and yet it costs as much as a C-class, we are encouraged going the wrong direction. My C-class survived me 15 years.

 

[dieselman]

Why would a car manufacturer, that makes money selling cars, want them to last a long time?

 

[dbanbery]

have to agree with this, whats the life expectancy of the average car...7 years or so. This is terrible waste of energy and resources, cars should be built to last and that does mean simple engineering and they should be repaired and repaired again, both my cars are approaching 20 years old but both are very healthy. In the case of the G-Wagen I expect it to last another 20 years. There are no shortage of 40 year old Land Rovers around and with respect to them compared to the G they are rubbish.

if i can spend something like £1500 buying and returning an old F*rd to far beyond roadworthy condition [not perfect] then where is the sense in spending 20k or whatever it is on one of these cars? havent the materials in the batteries gone round the world before the car turns a wheel?

i understand if everyone did what i and a few others do then used cars would be a lot more expensive, and so would new cars due to the decreased manurfacturing. i think the economy would work better though.

i also believe that simple engineering rules over computer controlled stupidity - its all nice to have an electronic dipstick on your BMW but when it costs a three figure sum when it goes wrong its not worth it.

i think most cars would last longer if they were repaired properly and not just binned because someone wanted a new one. i really dont get this "new car" thing - i think its a thatcherite way of thinking and i see an immense amount of kudos in having a mint OLD car.

sorry for the rant it annoys me

 

[dbanbery]

Why would a car manufacturer, that makes money selling cars, want them to last a long time?

because their business would be more sustainable and last longer, rather than eventually go bust because materials are so expensive due to everything spiralling out of control.

its greed feeding on the greed of others...