E55 ATF how to measure level?

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I have just had my transmission oil changed on my E55,we drained the the oil out of the sump and torque converter, 8 litres came out,filled it with the same amount.Took the car for a long drive and when i came back put the dipstick in whilst the car was in park the oil didnt register on the level it should have been.

Then put the car in nuetral and it registered,are you suppose to measure it in nuetral or park.Iam worried now that there might not enough oil in there.

Thanks in advance.
 

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I have just had my transmission oil changed on my E55,we drained the the oil out of the sump and torque converter, 8 litres came out,filled it with the same amount.Took the car for a long drive and when i came back put the dipstick in whilst the car was in park the oil didnt register on the level it should have been.

Then put the car in nuetral and it registered,are you suppose to measure it in nuetral or park.Iam worried now that there might not enough oil in there.

Thanks in advance.

.......... and the engine was running when you dipped it? On auto boxes I've checked the level on over the years, it hasn't mattered whether in Park or neutral
 
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.......... and the engine was running when you dipped it? On auto boxes I've checked the level on over the years, it hasn't mattered whether in Park or neutral

yes the engine was running , in park it didnt hit the mark but in neutral it was hitting the mark.
 

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According to a well respected Indy you "Dip the sump with the dipstick with the gearbox in "N" or "P".

Is it a genuine MB dipstick?
 

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80 degree versus 20 degree mark

It's very difficult, almost impossible to actually get the gearbox to reach 80. Maybe that is why there is also a 20 degree mark on the dipstick?
 

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It's very difficult, almost impossible to actually get the gearbox to reach 80. Maybe that is why there is also a 20 degree mark on the dipstick?
Sure, I think the calculation is taken into account :D You can burn your self on hot transmission fluid, hence the cooler fitted.
 

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I'm convinced that the only way to get mine to 80 degrees would be to use a blow torch on the sump.

I checked this a few times recently and cannot get it to go above 70, even after a hard drive and long tick over.
 

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Then I would say you have a thermostat issue which also needs sorting.

The gearbox should be +80'c and running and in Park to be checked correctly or less than 25'c and running in park. The genuine dipsticks have marks for both temperatures.
 

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Be careful of those ebay dipsticks. The one I purchased had a painted end which immediately started to flake when inserted.

I have always found it quite hard to read these auto boxes. Sometimes one side of the dipstick will show one level then on the reverse another? The ATF can also be quite translucent, again, making it difficult to read properly.
 

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Be careful of those ebay dipsticks. The one I purchased had a painted end which immediately started to flake when inserted.

I have always found it quite hard to read these auto boxes. Sometimes one side of the dipstick will show one level then on the reverse another? The ATF can also be quite translucent, again, making it difficult to read properly.

After the fluid has been 200k miles its much easier to see on the dip stick;)
 

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Then I would say you have a thermostat issue which also needs sorting.

The gearbox should be +80'c and running and in Park to be checked correctly or less than 25'c and running in park. The genuine dipsticks have marks for both temperatures.
No thermostat issue, engine temp is nomal. Dipstick is genuine MB, no problems with oil flow.
 

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had my ATF done yesterday and checked it after, thought i had to much in as i didn't check while the engine was running :rolleyes: will try later when i finish work and hope its got the right ammount in when cold and will check when i get home after things have got up to temp. Oddly enough i did noticed there is a slight whyne when i lift off throttle (not really noticable under load) comes in at about 1500-1700 rpm when moving. now i did notice it before i had the car serviced but as i knew it could have been 50k miles since the last time the ATF was done i put it down to that. Does anyone have any ideas?

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The whine sound like the diff to me, the boxes do not do that
 

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thought that may be the case, thanks. any idea on how to check?
 

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MB diffs are not that good, the whine often never gets any worse. It is the pinion bearing thats lost its loading. I think that you would have to disconnect the prop shaft to test but it does sound so familiar. My SL did it
 

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Change the diff oil. 1.2 litres required ,90 grade. Around £5 a litre from ECP with the discount code.

You will need a bottle with a filler tube though, the last litre I bought from them did not have one, but I always keep one on the shelf.
 
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